That >8,000 lb. winch is a waste of money.

six5crèéd · Oct 3, 2020

JEEPNIK said: ↑

In theory it would work. Then again I think that kind of thinking came from a fellow that said if he had a lever and a fulcrum he could move the earth.

Heck I saw the math that determined the length of the lever and the placement of the fulcrum once. Yep in theory it works. I’ll buy the guy who does it a beer.
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I ordered a math book to help us. As soon as it arrives I’ll get to studying

VT_TACOMA · Oct 7, 2020

I keep checking back for a video. Haven't forgotten about this thread yet...

Taco-Obsessed · Oct 7, 2020

Bump

ResearchMonkee · Oct 8, 2020

Clarky4545 · Oct 14, 2020

Op still working on rigging

Wyoming09 · Oct 14, 2020

As the fire or flood depending just where you might be reaches the stuck vehicle!!!

Key-Rei · Oct 14, 2020

Don't carry a 80lb winch it's too heavy carry 200lbs of snatch blocks extra length line extra straps and extra shackles it's way better because you get to spend more time slogging through nature's mud and being smart!

I've been there, recovered my truck with a highlift as a winch and useing some force multipliers etc took me 4 hours, then I went home and bought a 8k warn winch.

oakcity · Oct 14, 2020

Hump Day bump today’s the day

ResearchMonkee · Oct 21, 2020

Can't let this die.

Where ya at, OP? I'm still wanting to learn how to waste my time.

Texoma · Oct 21, 2020

ResearchMonkee said: ↑

Can't let this die.

Where ya at, OP? I'm still wanting to learn how to waste my time.
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Waiting here too

Wyoming09 · Oct 21, 2020

Looking forward To this video

Rock Lobster · Oct 21, 2020

He's had two months to come up with a proof of concept now.

I hereby nominate this thread for the official Al Capone's Vault award of Delivery.

cwadej · Oct 21, 2020

I'm sure he has all the equipment, still rigging it to pull.

Taco-Obsessed · Oct 21, 2020

@TomHGZ

Hobbs · Oct 21, 2020

ResearchMonkee said: ↑

Can't let this die.

Where ya at, OP? I'm still wanting to learn how to waste my time.
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We can let it die. Really.

mac_2_nite · Oct 21, 2020

Also waiting!

Clarky4545 · Oct 21, 2020

Hobbs said: ↑

We can let it die. Really.
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Nothing wrong with a running joke among friends. No ones forcing anyone to open the thread.

OP found out using MA is great for starting friction fires. Not so much for pulling Tacos.

Texoma · Oct 22, 2020

TomHGZ[OP] initial post: ↑

Title to catch eyes, but hear me out: putting an >8,000 lb. winch on a Toyota Tacoma is a massive waste of money for the vast majority of Tacoma drivers.

Chances are you paid more than $500 for a big winch, paid another $1000 for the bumper to hold it, and now the weight pulls the front of your truck down, makes it handle like a soggy sloppy joe sandwich, saps its already meager fuel economy, and you could have spent the money on something else you wanted. The net loss for your daily driver now exceeds the occasional utility the winch provides.

Alternatively, take half an hour learn how to set up some mechanical advantage systems. We like to talk about "know how to use your hi-lift jack before you need it on the trail." Knowing how to set up mechanical advantage systems are arguably just as useful, and maybe more.

And we already use snatch blocks: sometimes we use them as a simple change-of-direction pulley; sometimes we use them as a 2:1 mechanical advantage. Why stop at 2:1?

Setting up a 4:1 system with a 3,000 lb. ATV winch yields 12,000 lbs. of pull, which exceeds the working load of most synthetic line. ATV winches are far lighter than truck winches; you can stow them in your tool box and use them front or back as you please, and you can probably buy one that will do the job for $100. Spend another $100 on some pulleys and other gear set up your 4:1 system, and you now have the a 12,000 lb. pull for $200. And setting up a good MA system on the trail gets style points.

There are some disadvantages: The truck doesn’t project the same tough image without a winch and steel bumper out front. Setting up for a pull can take a little longer. The pulls themselves will take longer. You'll have to learn something well enough that you can repeat it under stress. And you may want to learn how to brake and reset your mechanical advantage system mid-pull, because you won't get as much pull distance from your line.

But then you no longer have to drive your chonky winch to work. You don't have to buy new coil springs or dial up your preload to compensate for the winch and bumper that just killed your lift height. Your truck won't feel like a reflection in a funhouse mirror when you shoot the curves on the backroads. And you can pull from the front, back, or even the sides with all those pulleys you now have.

This is just my opinion though. If anyone is already using MA systems higher than 2:1's for vehicle recovery, share your thoughts.
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We is waiting for you to teach us how we are so ignorant in the ways of witching, and your other fancy MA

Taco-Obsessed · Oct 23, 2020

@TomHGZ this weekend the one?

tcjacado · Oct 23, 2020

We couldn't even get video of the guy running over cardboard boxes attempting to test his TSS system.... I doubt a video is coming on this..

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