Warped drums.

My drums developed a warp that could not be machined. At 66000 kms
Had them replaced on Friday(3 days ago) and they set the ebrake too tight IMO (one click locks the tires up). Was brought to their attention before I left and was assured this was to spec.

The day after they were replaced the ebrake stuck ON. Had to rock back and forth to get it to disengage. There is now another warp.

fast forward to today.

I am being told that my 1” block has caused tension on the ebrake cables and that this will keep happening.

They say there is no more room for adjustment. Pic below for reference of behind the handle. Looks to me like there is lots to go.

Anyone have experience with lifts and or ebrake cable relocation that can provide any insight?

 

Not sure they know how drum brakes work....
Its pretty easy to mess up and it's a small bit of an art to set it right.
Really not sure how a block lift would do anything. It's built to flex with the axle.

 

I was told that because of the block, at droop it’s pulled the sheathing in the cables and done damage.

I’m no certified mechanic but I’ve done a fair share of work myself over the years to know they are out to lunch.

My thoughts are they they weren’t adjusted properly with the new drums. They say otherwise

 

Was thinking this as well. Looks all the way tight.

At this point I don’t want to touch anything and let them deal with it. Waiting for new drums and shoes but they keep saying it will just happen again....

 

Ask them;

Why did your rear brakes did not lock at 1 click with the block in before they adjusted it?

Now have them put the truck bacl on the lift and watch how much the rear axle drops then check to see if the e-brake cable is pulled too tight... if it's not pulled too tight at full extension then how could it sitting in your driveway pull the parking cable too tight?

Why is there another inch of thread left on the end of your parking brake adjuster?

Why does the Pro with an additional 1" of advertised ride height also use the same parking brake cable?

Ask them what the real spec RANGE is from the Toyota service manual?

Ask them why this is not happening on other Tacomas with 2-3" lifts?

Then ask them when they are booking your appointment to fix it properly, free of charge?

 

Bunch of dorks, I always try to assume they are not being malicious untill they prove they are. Lifes easier that way. Agree, with post above. Make them fix it. I imagine almost no one is having that issue.
I always run into this kind of trouble as most shops that's why I end up doing most stuff myself. It's really annoying.

 

I was in the shop with them when the tech was removing the drums. He said the cable is too tight. So I went ahead and felt it. Yeah MAYBE a little, but there’s still play there. It’s not stupid tight.

I don’t think they adjusted the shoes properly when putting the new drums on to begin with.

I asked about 2-3” lift and issues. Tech says add a leaf or new leafs dont push the diff as far away from the truck.. umm sorry what?

They have already admitted to letting the truck leave with the ebrake set too tight and are replacing the shoes and drums when parts arrive.

Convenient for them to have the parts when I’m willing to pay but not when they admit they sent it out with issues.

a couple of those other questions are good to note and I will be noting those when I hear back for my appt.

At this point I will let them replace the parts and take it over to a friend who’s been in the industry for damn near 20 yrs to go over their work.

 

99% of the work I do myself so I’m with you there. I didn’t want to mess with the drums as I know they can be a pain.

 

Last t

Yes drums are a royal pain and agree with ya.
Last time I did drums my wife left my ebrake on for 15 miles the next week. I was a little sad.
Let's just say lots of fire.....

 

Ouch! I mean, I can’t even drive with mine set to one click as of right now so that shouldn’t be an issue hahaha

 

I believe you are correct...

From the service manual after reassembling the rear drums....

2. ADJUST REAR DRUM BRAKE SHOE CLEARANCE
(a) Provisionally install the hub nuts.
(b) Remove the hole plug, and turn the adjuster to expand the shoe
until the drum locks.
(c) Using a screwdriver, release the adjuster 15 notches.
(d) Install the hole plug.

Probably only released a couple notches....

as for the parking brake... (note: here they only say 8 notches to release the pads, but you have backed the parking brake cable off all the way first)

 

Sighs...these "old school" things (drum brakes instead of disc) seem to perplex the modern and I will use this term loosely...mechanic.
Todays tech plugs the vehicle in and it tells them what to do...gone are the days of actually knowing how things work and how part X affects part Y.

So mouth breather drone tech has no idea about this space age drum brake adjustment procedure and finds a way to blame it on something else....typical.
Trained as mechanic since the stone age, every time I read things like this, I raise my hands to the heavens and let out a little yell....ID IPSUM. That....for all you youngsters is LATIN...... also long forgotten.
You may now use your internet skills to decipher that phrase....feel free to use it or round file it...

 

Dealer blaming you for their fuckup is standard procedure. Space Age drum brakes lmao.

 

I printed out the entire manual procedure and left it on my seat with my wheel lock when I went there yesterday. All 45 or so pages of it. I’m sure they loved that.

 

Guy working on the truck was a 20 yr technician according to them! haha

 

good lord... my ebrake works just fine with a 6" lift. Proper workmanship must be damn near gone these days....maybe ask for a older tech at the stealership? couldn't hurt at this point OP... maybe someone who actually works on drummies...

 

I hear ya...
I know a Honda motorcycle mechanic with about the same amount of "trained years"
A friend of mine dialed me up and asked "why his vintage Elsinore was running poorly" and "shouldn't this thing have 5 gears"???
Bring it on over and let's have a look see....so he did.
This "Honda trained motorcycle mechanic" put the piston in backwards (they even have a ---> arrow to exhaust on the dome. AND he left out some transmission shims AND put in 5th gear in backwards...hmmm there is a pattern revealing itself here....

So there ya go.....

 

This is coming from their most senior tech.

 

Back off the star adjusters in the drum all the way down , hit the brakes several times. Then pull the E brake handle for 3 clicks, (should feel pretty loose because you just backed the star adjusters off all the way) then with the e brake handle 3 clicks up adjust the star adjusters untill there tight on both sides. Rear wheels should be locked up at this point. Then release the e brake handle all the way down and that should get you right were you need to be.

 

Damn it! Really wish I'd came across this thread yesterday.
I replaced my rear brakes yesterday, and was have a bit of hard time adjusting them. I think they're fine now, but I would definitely save myself a bunch of time yesterday.

Op, hope you're all squared away!

Also, lol at "space age drum brake"