1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Annoyingly High Idle

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Brantley, Oct 5, 2020.

  1. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:26 AM
    #21
    sramirez1516

    sramirez1516 Saul R.

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2017
    Member:
    #208449
    Messages:
    205
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Saul
    Vehicle:
    2002 Toyota tacoma xtracab prerunner 2.7
    None

    My 2002 Tacoma did 3000 RPMs while idling all the time when I first got it. The guy who sold it to me said it was normal but I knew it wasn't normal. After a lot of research I found out the Idle control valve was the issue. I replaced with OEM from a Toyota dealer and when I started the truck it would go up to 2500 RPMs and coming down to 750 RPMs once the truck was on running temperature. It's still working fine (knock on wood)

    Pains me to say this but if you're replacing the part don't get them from ebay (unless they're 100% OEM replacements) or even the autoparts store because they are made cheaply and they either won't last or won't work properly, specially sensors.

    I say this because I replaced the one on my coworkers T100. He bought it for 60 bycks despite me telling him to save and replace with the OEM part but he said no. Fast forward 2 months it took a crap on him. My 06 charger's oil temp sensor failed too and I replaced with autozone part but the CEL went off right away so I had to replace it with OEM from Dodge dealer.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2020
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #21
    Brantley[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  2. Oct 17, 2020 at 8:46 PM
    #22
    Brantley

    Brantley [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2009
    Member:
    #17783
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    San Clemente, CA
    Vehicle:
    09 White PreRunner Sport
    New OEM throttle body arrived with all new sensors. Slapped it on in 15 minutes and problem solved. Idles at 850 RPM when fully warmed up. Thanks @codosa for the tip!

    Problem was likely a tired throttle body & IAC.
     
    mistafier, ElTaquitoJr and codosa like this.
  3. Oct 19, 2020 at 12:19 AM
    #23
    codosa

    codosa Rambler

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2018
    Member:
    #257782
    Messages:
    140
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Collon
    Maui, Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2015 Black Access Cab 4x4
    2001 Black Ext.Cab SR5 4x4 -RIP
    Glad it solved your problem, wish I would have been able to figure it out sooner myself.
     
  4. Nov 15, 2020 at 8:48 AM
    #24
    TenderWarrior

    TenderWarrior Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2019
    Member:
    #314101
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    do you know by chance what part number was the throttle body you got? Do they all come with a new IAC too if you get a new throttle body from Toyota parts deal?
     
  5. Nov 16, 2020 at 12:10 AM
    #25
    codosa

    codosa Rambler

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2018
    Member:
    #257782
    Messages:
    140
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Collon
    Maui, Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2015 Black Access Cab 4x4
    2001 Black Ext.Cab SR5 4x4 -RIP
    Part No.: 22210-62260
    BODY ASSY, THROTTLE

    I have a 2001 tacoma, 5vz-fe, 4x4 and manual trans. So thats the one that fit my model. It comes with a new IAC and TPS and cost me $377 plus shipping.
     
    Truckstop13 likes this.
  6. Nov 16, 2020 at 3:21 AM
    #26
    TenderWarrior

    TenderWarrior Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2019
    Member:
    #314101
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    Thank you! I have the same spec except I have an auto transmission.

    debating if I should go that route or send to maxbore. I’m idling around 1200rpm now. I may try cleaning myself first then see. I think it will be easier to just spend the extra money and get a brand new one and replace.
     
  7. Nov 16, 2020 at 6:53 AM
    #27
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    Honestly, if your TB is already causing a high idle, DONT clean it! The carbon buildup around the butterfly is likely preventing even more air from bypassing. I made this mistake and then HAD to deal with my TB because it jacked my idle up past 3000.

    When your truck is running at operating temps, open the hood, grab the mechanism on the TB that the Butterfly-shaft is connected to and give it a pull towards you, if your butterfly valve has worn into the side of the TB this will temporarily reset the butterfly where it needs to be and the idle will drop down until you give it throttle again and the butterfly come back and gets stuck on the lip it has worn into the TB

    you can shim that butterfly shaft with a retaining clip or something to keep it where it wants to be. That is how I fixed mine.

    Edit if that made no sense I can go take a picture of what I’m taking about
     
  8. Nov 16, 2020 at 6:56 AM
    #28
    Dalandser

    Dalandser ¡Me Gustan Las Tacos-mas!

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Member:
    #149090
    Messages:
    17,570
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Downey
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner Regular Cab / 98 4x4 Extra Cab
    Empty Wallet Mod
    You can disassemble and clean it - if done properly you don’t make problems worse.
     
  9. Nov 16, 2020 at 6:58 AM
    #29
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    Depends on the problem
     
  10. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:07 AM
    #30
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    like I said, if the problem is; the butterfly has worn into the firewall side of the TB(as they do because the spring mechanism is biased to pulling that direction), then cleaning the carbon buildup around the butterfly WILL raise your idle even more. That’s just reality.

    If; the the problem is the IAC valve is stuck, and you clean that, you CAN fix the idle.

    If; you kept it clean from day 1, the butterfly won’t wear into the TB. Because the “grit” from the build up isn’t aiding the wear.
     
  11. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:14 AM
    #31
    TenderWarrior

    TenderWarrior Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2019
    Member:
    #314101
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    I bet the TB wasn’t clean from day 1. I may just buy a new one and be done with it.
     
    96BlueTacos[QUOTED] likes this.
  12. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:21 AM
    #32
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    It won’t hurt to pull it off and inspect it. Again, @Dalandser isnt wrong that you can pull it apart and clean it and make things better, but that’s if there is not mechanical wear between the actual butterfly valve and the inside bore. For exampleimage.jpgyou can see the wear on the left side. If this is the problem, and you clean the carbon buildup, your idle will go up. This is what max bore fixes.

    if IAC is problem, pull it off, clean it, problem solved.
     
  13. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:21 AM
    #33
    Dalandser

    Dalandser ¡Me Gustan Las Tacos-mas!

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Member:
    #149090
    Messages:
    17,570
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Downey
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner Regular Cab / 98 4x4 Extra Cab
    Empty Wallet Mod
    If you make the problem worse by cleaning the part, you’re the problem.
     
    mistafier likes this.
  14. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:22 AM
    #34
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    :facepalm:
     
    mistafier likes this.
  15. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:23 AM
    #35
    Dalandser

    Dalandser ¡Me Gustan Las Tacos-mas!

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Member:
    #149090
    Messages:
    17,570
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Downey
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner Regular Cab / 98 4x4 Extra Cab
    Empty Wallet Mod
    This stuff ain’t rocket surgery.
     
  16. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:23 AM
    #36
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
     
  17. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:25 AM
    #37
    Dalandser

    Dalandser ¡Me Gustan Las Tacos-mas!

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Member:
    #149090
    Messages:
    17,570
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Downey
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner Regular Cab / 98 4x4 Extra Cab
    Empty Wallet Mod
    You wouldn’t be making things worse as stated, would not fix the problem - wouldn’t make it worse either.
     
  18. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:26 AM
    #38
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    Ya but it ain’t baking a cake, there’s nuance in the world.
     
  19. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:30 AM
    #39
    Dalandser

    Dalandser ¡Me Gustan Las Tacos-mas!

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Member:
    #149090
    Messages:
    17,570
    First Name:
    Anthony
    Downey
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner Regular Cab / 98 4x4 Extra Cab
    Empty Wallet Mod
    The nuance here is you’re not making a problem worse when properly maintaining it. To show I’m not blowing smoke - fully rebuilt / cleaned tb and swapped out stupid philips head screws. If you’re problem is something that doesn’t have anything to do with cleaning - ie a mechanical failure of the butterfly valve then you’re not making it worse - it was already that bad and you’re not properly maintaining by just cleaning it. Perhaps that’s the issue - cleaning and maintaining aren’t the same thing.

    upload_2020-11-16_7-29-26.jpg
    upload_2020-11-16_7-30-14.jpg
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2020
  20. Nov 16, 2020 at 7:36 AM
    #40
    96BlueTacos

    96BlueTacos トヨダ

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Member:
    #223188
    Messages:
    1,137
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mikey
    Earth, 3rd planet from the Sun (CO)
    Vehicle:
    1996 Single Cab Taco Manual 4x4 3.4L V6 370k /1985 4Runner 4x4 22RE 200k /2001 Double Cab Taco Auto 4x4 Supercharged 3.4L V6 180k
    1996-JBA upper control arms, replaceable Cardan joint drive shaft, leveling kit, camper shell, trailer hitch... 2001- TRD Supercharged, TRD headers...
    High idle is caused by potentially a couple of things. That’s why I said IF you can fix the high idle by pulling the butterfly mechanism toward the radiator, don’t clean the TB until you have you solution, unless you want a higher idle. If you try that and nothing happens, it’s unlikely that the butterfly wear is your issue. That’s the nuance I’m talking about. Rebuilt and cleaned are not the same
    dude, that’s not “cleaning” that’s rebuilding. Big difference there. Good lord.

    all I’m saying is IF THE BUTTERFLY WEAR IS THE PROBLEM. Don’t clean it.

    if you have wear like this, cleaning the carbon buildup WILL make your idle go up. That’s just fact. If you don’t have this wear, it won’t.image.jpgimage.jpg
     

Products Discussed in

To Top