BASHING SPACERS FOR MILD LIFTS

JDMcQ · Dec 5, 2010

Janster said: ↑

You should do some research on top plate spacers. Vehicle geometry might stay the same but the suspension travel does not. The max upward suspension travel is 2" lower than it normall is. The max downward travel is 2" lower than it normally is. This forces the upper A-arms to move 2" farther downward than they're normally intended to travel which can cause balljoint failure over time.
Also - when the upper a-arms are moving downward that far, the steering knuckle can come in contact with the coil spring.

Thank about it.....

And Yes - if you're not offroading or flexing the suspension at all, your less likely to have balljoint failure.
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^^^This^^^

05 TRD Sport · Dec 5, 2010

I wish you all would quit talking about spacers. I was enjoying all the shenanigans and asshattery.

allrsdup · Dec 5, 2010

Tepidy[OP] said: ↑

yosh2000 the spacer is a top plate spacer and it gives 2" of lift, the actual spacer is only about 1.25" thick. Downward travel is exactly the same as factory travel being that nothing has changed other than lowering the whole unit . Factory ride is exactly the same. Why use only spacer designated to do a total of 2" of lift intead of 3 or 4, this is because the vehicle geometry pretty much stays the same especially if you use a 1" diff drop along with a aal in the rear thus resulting in no undue stress on anything. Somewhere down the line someone convinced everyone that these type of spacers compress springs and tear up ball joints-not true if you stick to this size. Perfect way to go if you are going off road every once in a while (not racing or rock climbing) to clear larger tires (31's).
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i dont really understand why u started yourself off on the forum calling people out? the forum is for people to help others and meet new friends maybe along the way. u have not acted in such a way. and just so u know, differential drops are not all that good either. if u searched here u would see that people are starting to find out that using them is not all its cracked up to be and that they have actually caused more damage is some cases.

chris4x4 · Dec 5, 2010

allrsdup said: ↑

i dont really understand why u started yourself off on the forum calling people out? the forum is for people to help others and meet new friends maybe along the way. u have not acted in such a way. and just so u know, differential drops are not all that good either. if u searched here u would see that people are starting to find out that using them is not all its cracked up to be and that they have actually caused more damage is some cases.
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X2. And it seems the OP knows very little about how a front suspension works.....

TexasTacoma37 · Dec 5, 2010

Tepidy[OP] said: ↑

Somewhere down the line someone convinced everyone that these type of spacers compress springs...
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chris4x4 said: ↑

X2. And it seems the OP knows very little about how a front suspension works.....
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Also doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are two types of spacer lifts? (Top plate and coil).

I don't think there are too many people on here that were "convinced" (by us know-it-alls) that top-plate spacers compress the coils. The only one providing false information so far seems to be the OP.

chris4x4 · Dec 5, 2010

KPT said: ↑

Also doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are two types of spacer lifts? (Top plate and coil).

I don't think there are too many people on here that were "convinced" (by us know-it-alls) that top-plate spacers compress the coils. The only one providing false information so far seems to be the OP.
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Well....A Top plate spacer doesnt compress the coil spring. It just makes the assembly longer. Note: this pic is not the Tacoma assembly, but similar set up

What a set up like this does, as Janster has already pointed out to the OP, is make sthe suspension want to travle further than designed. Thus binding, and breaking stuff. Meow......Im not a "Know-it-all"...Just a guy with a can opener......

TexasTacoma37 · Dec 5, 2010

chris4x4 said: ↑

Well....A Top plate spacer doesnt compress the coil spring. It just makes the assembly longer. Note: this pic is not the Tacoma assembly, but similar set up

What a set up like this does, as Janster has already pointed out to the OP, is make sthe suspension want to travle further than designed. Thus binding, and breaking stuff. Meow......Im not a "Know-it-all"...Just a guy with a can opener......
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Yeah I'm fully aware of the differences, just wasn't sure the OP was. Those pics help.

A possible addition to Jansters post: Does the addition of a 3" top plate spacer actually render the front bump stops useless? i.e. will the shock bottom out before the LCA hits the bump stops, or there still some travel left in the shock?

jmdaniel · Dec 5, 2010

ToucanV13 said: ↑

Yeah but that gif doesn't show up on the home screen on the left, the butt does though

EDIT: I stand corrected
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I stand erected!

Tepidy · Dec 5, 2010

You guys finaly beat me down. Greatest apologies if I insulted anyone with the "know it all" expression. For my purposes the lift I went with works for me and certainly works for my budget. Like I said I am not rock climbing or racing Just hitting some fire roads in the woods while hunting. Had a chance to look at a lot of your rides and they all look like sweet hook ups. Proud to be part of the TW forums and I can tell there is a lot of good info here. The OP

1337Taco · Dec 5, 2010

No problem, we are just giving you a hard time. Welcome to TW and enjoy your stay.

chris4x4 · Dec 5, 2010

KPT said: ↑

Yeah I'm fully aware of the differences, just wasn't sure the OP was. Those pics help.

A possible addition to Jansters post: Does the addition of a 3" top plate spacer actually render the front bump stops useless? i.e. will the shock bottom out before the LCA hits the bump stops, or there still some travel left in the shock?
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Yeah...With a top plate spacer, the shock now becomes the bump stop.

JDMcQ · Dec 5, 2010

chris4x4 said: ↑

Well....A Top plate spacer doesnt compress the coil spring. It just makes the assembly longer. Note: this pic is not the Tacoma assembly, but similar set up

What a set up like this does, as Janster has already pointed out to the OP, is make sthe suspension want to travle further than designed. Thus binding, and breaking stuff. Meow......Im not a "Know-it-all"...Just a guy with a can opener......
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Meow??? WTF???

Incognito · Dec 5, 2010

numbah57 · Dec 5, 2010

So are we done here?

chris4x4 · Dec 5, 2010

jdmcq said: ↑

Meow??? WTF???
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Look, meow....Dont make me ban you meow.

wolfpack_5150 said: ↑

He went full?
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I did that long ago.....sigh...

BEEFY_CHEESY_TACO · Dec 5, 2010

LOL I've been gone for a few days and I can't believe this thread is still going strong!

ktmrider · Dec 5, 2010

RAT PRODUCTS · Dec 5, 2010

ktmrider said: ↑

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allrsdup · Dec 5, 2010

Tepidy[OP] said: ↑

You guys finaly beat me down. Greatest apologies if I insulted anyone with the "know it all" expression. For my purposes the lift I went with works for me and certainly works for my budget. Like I said I am not rock climbing or racing Just hitting some fire roads in the woods while hunting. Had a chance to look at a lot of your rides and they all look like sweet hook ups. Proud to be part of the TW forums and I can tell there is a lot of good info here. The OP
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in that case, welcome and enjoy the site. start another thread and introduce yourself with some pictures of your ride.

yosh2000 · Dec 5, 2010

Tepidy[OP] said: ↑

yosh2000....Downward travel is exactly the same as factory travel being that nothing has changed other than lowering the whole unit. Factory ride is exactly the same.
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well now i know you have no idea what your talking about...

the aarms have a fixed pivot point. the only way to raise the truck using coil spacers is to rotate those arms...and by rotating those arms what are you doing....LOSING downtravel!! stock the truck has about ~3-4" of downtravel, but when you rotate those arms a/ a spacer, you now only have 0-1" downtravel...its simple math dude.

by doing this, you will NOT have the same factory ride...

ok, enough time wasted on someone that obviously has no idea what they are talking about...

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