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Are OME Dakar springs made for 4x4?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Cutter_, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Nov 30, 2020 at 10:53 AM
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    Well since they are the same spring rating but different heights, the 881s will technically still give you more lift than the 880s with weight on them. But for substantial weight (bumper, skids, winch) I would go 883s for that extra 90lbs/in load capacity
     
  2. Nov 30, 2020 at 10:59 AM
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    Yeah. I didn't know since they could be taller if the shock is dampening less since the spring is getting compressed less if that adds to the ride harshness or not.

    Edit: Would you say switching from 881's to 880's isn't worth it then at this point?
     
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  3. Nov 30, 2020 at 1:42 PM
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    Honestly never even left the garage with the 881's when I saw that it was so high - the angles were bad at CV UBJ and UCA - spindles almost hitting springs - nose up in the air even with the Dakars in back. :notsure:

    Went right back on the jacks and pulled the springs, ordered 880 and have not looked back.
     
  4. Nov 30, 2020 at 1:52 PM
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    I wonder if Wheelers will let me send my shocks back and exchange the springs for 883s, I am getting so much different information from every vendor on these.

    There is not a single source of reliable information on these fing springs, and the post above me doesn't help
     
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  5. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:00 PM
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    There are a million thread on this topic and each poster has slightly different information. Some differences are because of opinion like ride quality and looks and so on, and some that is just strange, like the same trucks with the same springs and different amount of lift. There are members out here with the same truck as me who swear up and down that their 881's were perfect, while on my truck they were way too high. I do not know why.

    If you have ordered already I would just install what you got and see how it comes out. Only way to know for sure. I firmly believe that the only way to know for sure for your own application is to test it out. Don't overthink it and don't stress too much. Springs are easy to change if you decide to do so, and if Wheelers does not take your extras back, sell them here and I bet they'll be gone in less than a week.
     
  6. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM
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    If I have the shocks put on and need to pull them at a later date, should I keep my old stock shocks just in case for this purpose?
     
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  7. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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    It must be due to your truck being even lighter than the double cab. Mine isn't too bad. My issue is more so with the ride quality.

    My ride height from hub to fender with the Dakars (I have an ARE shell) and the 881's up front is 24 1/2" for the rear and 23 1/2" for the front.
     
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  8. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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    I kept my 881s/5100s for this reason when I installed my Kings. I've already reinstalled the old setup once when I had to get my Kings rebuilt
     
  9. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:08 PM
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    You can keep your stock shocks if you want, like if your truck is undrivable for some reason with what you have installed, and you need your truck on the road while you wait for parts.

    Here is how to replace springs - quick and easy. This is on a 2nd gen so there are slight differences, but in general the procedure is the same. Took me all of 10 minutes to swap each spring.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkVLBOnAifc
     
  10. Nov 30, 2020 at 2:13 PM
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    This explains some difference between you and me, but there are other members with a 2.7 reg cab who love their 881's with a reasonable lift. Mine was way to high. Who knows why.
     
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    Yeah, it seems to be more about an issue with height rather than ride for sure.
     
  12. Dec 5, 2020 at 6:45 AM
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    If there is some way I can unbolt the LCA and drop it down I can get the shocks in. But I’m not seeing how to do that on these trucks

    EDIT: Looks like this is what I need to do

    https://youtu.be/5E6u7dC7EHg

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    Wedge a pry bar between the arm and where the bump stop strikes and push down, should be able to get the arm to move down more.

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    Some people loosen the cam bolts on the arm to get it to drop more instead but make sure you mark them if you do that so your alignment isn't all messed up afterwards
     
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    I thought I was having deja-vu lol, didn't we go over this last week?
     
  15. Dec 5, 2020 at 7:21 AM
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    I’m going to attempt this today. Crowbar method won’t work. Will remove bolts connecting ball joint and steering knuckle, then loosen cam bolts on the other side of the LCA

    https://youtu.be/5E6u7dC7EHg
     
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    I haven't had to do it before but I believe aftermarket UCAs give me more droop allowing the LCA to drop down more.

    If you have a bottle jack I've heard that can work too, I think it goes on top of the UCA against the top of the wheel well... When you extend it, it pushes the both arms down further.

    I would be inclined to try that before messing with the cams but if that's the only way its the only way. Be sure to torque them properly when done so they don't clunk like crazy, cams are around 90-100 ft/lbs... Should be on that torque sheet I posted a ways back
     
  17. Dec 5, 2020 at 7:36 AM
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    I'm not worried about alignment, I'm getting new rims and tires in January. The cams are what is adjusted for alignment, correct?
     
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    Yep, that's part of it. You'll want to get it as close to what it was at though because if it's way off it can be difficult to steer and drive.

    If you mark the cams position now and match it up when you tighten them it should be fine
     
  19. Dec 5, 2020 at 8:54 AM
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    I am running 883’s with Bilstein 5100 set on zero, ARB expedition rear spring pack with the AAL and the Bilstein 5125?(silver ones).
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    I usually carry around 4-500# and that is plenty of lift for me(I have an ARB bumper and am planning on a winch soon, and front skid) 883 are going to give you substantial lift, and be a bit stiff for a pre runner I think, of course I can’t be sure about the Nitrocharger shocks they may change all that.
    I like the ride and how it feels more attached to the road-no sway bars. But YMMV, best of luck getting your rig dialed in.
     
  20. Dec 5, 2020 at 8:54 AM
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    @Cutter_ did you remove the sway bar links from the LCA? if not you NEED to do that otherwise too much resistance
     
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