Westcott designs Pro Lift w/ 33" tires

So westcott designs has a lift kit for the TRD Pros

Says you get a 1.5” (front lift) and 1” (rear lift) and can run up to a 33" tire with no cutting or modifications and don't need to change control arms.

My question is regarding spare tires and gearing after I get this stuff put on.

First off I plan on doing 17" Method 704's with 285/75/17 KO2's. Being that the Pro comes with 16" what do most of ya'll do for spares? Buy 1 extra expensive rim with the expensive tire? Or get a beater spare with decent tire? Will it make that much of a difference. Sorry if that's a stupid question. I came from a subaru sti and in the 5 years I had it, I never once had to change a tire and only had about 8k miles on it, before that I wasn't into cars so lack common man knowledge on this shit (I didn't have a dad, give me a break lol)

As far as gearing goes, is it better to regear the truck first then do tires and wheels or wait till I get all my equipment on the truck? I'm waiting for my CVT RTT, CBI rock sliders, recovery boards safejack stuff to still show up and get mounted on my bed bars and waiting for awhile to do bumpers since I'm still not sure if I even want / need to do them for what I'll be doing. Not sure if people wait to get everything on their truck that will stay on for awhile before regearing, or to just preemptively regear without having any idea what's going to be on the truck for good.

Thanks in advanced.

 

285/75/17 tires are actually 34” not 33” youll have some tire rub and will definitely need to do some trimming. I have 285/17/17s on my 3rd gen with stock gears and its fine, a little sluggish but manageable. If you can afford it I say go ahead and regear before you upgrade your tires

 

^ second this, might be fine without all that weight but once you start adding more

 

Assuming you are going with 17x8.5 +0 size Methods you will definitely need to do some fender liner trimming/cutting and possibly a CMC. I believe the claim of "fitting a 33" with no trimming" that Westcott is making refers to the stock wheel size and offset. Once you go with a wider wheel and a lower offset (making the wheels stick out further) you will run into much more clearance issues. I have 285/75r16's on the stock 16" TRD Pro wheels with stock suspension and they are about 1/2-3/4" from the fender liner at full lock. 17x8.5 +0 wheels would stick out another 1.25". For the spare I would get a beater tire to achieve the same overall diameter like a 285/70r16. From what ive read the truck doesn't like different size/weight tires in the rear so if you do get a flat in the rear, swap the spare with a front wheel and put that one in the rear.

 

Did you have to recalibrate your speedometer after putting the 285/75s on your stock rims? I might just go that route and put on a little beefier of a tire instead of adding to the rim+tire size. Will definitely save me some headache.

 

You don’t have to buy a calibrater if you don’t mind doing the math in your head. Hypertech and Rough Country both make one.

 

I thought that you could adjust the speedometer with OVTune/VFTuning and maybe TechStream…

 

I have a 2.5" Bilstein lift up front and the method 704s with a 255/80/17 (narrower) and it rubbed a little on mudflaps and bumper corner. You will likely need a cab mount chop if you go the 285 route maybe not. I would think at a minimum your gonna need to push the liner/pinch weld and trim the bumper corner. Probably be fine sticking with the factory wheels and going with a 255/85/16 but I think its a catch 22 with a 285. Cab mount and bumper corner or control arm depending on clearance.

 

I didnt recalibrate, I just realize the MPGs arent as bad as they look and im going a little faster than the speedometer reads lol. Its around a 7% increase in MPG and speed from the odometer readout so 17 MPGs on the odo is actually 18.2 IRL and 45 mph on the speedometer is actually 48mph IRL

 

So it seems like the best option without going crazy with molding/trimming liners or a full CMC is to go with 285/75R16s with the stock TRD Pro rather then jumping up to a 17". Anyone here do the jump up and still running the stock gears? Been thinking about driving my truck for the weekend to the washington location for Nitro Gears and having them install the 4.88s

 

I've been on 285/75r16s on stock wheels and gears for almost a year now and would LOVE more grunt off the line and better manners on the highway. If you're adding more weight then you should definitely regear it. Plus you're futureproofing against the eventual upsize to an even bigger tire and, while you've come this far, throw a locker in the front. It's only money!

From what I've read, and I'm no authority on the subject, a 5.29 might be a better choice. I live in a hilly region with trips to the mountains and on stock tires I found that 6th gear was unusable. 33s on and now I can lump along in 5th on a flat stretch @ 21-2200 RPM but if I encounter even the slightest incline at all, or a headwind, the truck downshifts to 4th and screams. 5.29s will bring the revs up at highway speed and hopefully allow you to stay in 5th longer, maybe even enter into that fabled 6th gear.

 

I don’t see how you can avoid trimming with a 285.

 

From what they at least say from westcott is that you can go up to a 33 without anything being done. I won't mind having to mold the wheel well at all. I honestly just don't want to fork out the $$ for a CMC when I can stay at the stock 31" and spend the money on regearing since I'm adding the CVT tent tomorrow and have the rest of our camping gear in the back.

Fuck I hate make decisions. I find myself thinking every thing I want to do as the most important thing to do first.

Want bigger tires? Then you'll need to do x, y, z and if you do y you'll also need to do a, b and c but if you do c you also need to do e, f and g. Think I might start an onlyfans. Know of any women (fuck it, or dudes) that want to see a short skinny fat dude in boxer briefs? LOL

 

So my CVT RTT gets here tomorrow. That'll be mounted on the CBI bed bars (was gonna go cab height rack but got these on offer for 250.00 so said fuck it for the time being bed bars will do just fine). Basically all my weight is coming from that and our camping equipment in the bed of the truck, which really is only our Orca 75qt cooler with food/drinks, 4x 2 gallon rotopaxs on a molle system, and our duffle bag of clothes (back seat is for the doggo).

I think I'll have a better idea of what I'll want to handle first after I get the RTT on the back and we go out for a short weekend somewhere close in the mountains (we're about 30 minutes from stevens pass here a little north of Seattle).

 

I should've clarified the first part of my post, I was giving you the standard forum response to mod suggestions. If you listen to the internet then you'll need all those things but you can throw 285's on the stock wheels with the stock gears with no lift and all your gear and be happy as a clam. You might rub a bit in certain scenarios but that's just highlighting where to spend your money when you can. It seriously just becomes mods because of mods at a certain point and that's not why I bought this truck.

With all my camping shit, the dog kennel, family gear filling the bed and the bike rack with 4 bikes hanging off the back, my truck is in dire need of some lift in the back but I can live with it for the 6 or 8 times a year that happens. Do I want a lift kit and better gears? For sure I do! But that money is better served spent on bikes and adventures. I got 285s because the stock tires were garbage in snow and ice and required replacing and, just like my bikes, I stuff the biggest tire possible!