Fitting 35’s with minimal trimming NOW ADDING LONG TRAVEL AND 934 CV’s

ovrlndkull · Nov 30, 2020

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Fucking A that is so cool they got that hammertone. I like that. So if we order a +4 kit could there be a custom PC color done? Been getting the bread together slowly!

81Trekker · Nov 30, 2020

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Fucking A that is so cool they got that hammertone. I like that. So if we order a +4 kit could there be a custom PC color done? Been getting the bread together slowly!
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Any kit can be done in any color/finish

81Trekker · Nov 30, 2020

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How about mine?
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Very, very soon!

01 dhrracer · Nov 30, 2020

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Does someone need a step stool?

kasnerd · Nov 30, 2020

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@Evenflow that's some fancy sema level paint job. gonna have to hold your pinky out when you wheel...

81Trekker · Nov 30, 2020

@CMScheid 3rd gen is getting close!

81Trekker · Nov 30, 2020

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Slashaar · Nov 30, 2020

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on page 27 reading and counting but asking now out of impatience so forgive me if it's already been covered (maybe I will find out in the coming pages)
if anyone knows,

-can a cheap Harbor Freight MIG welder perform work like this, including LCA Pivots install? Maybe with some practice welding on spare parts, and reading the $20 Hayne's Welding Book they also sell at Harbor Freight. Welding seems like a good life skill to have that can only improve with time; might as well start now and become self-sufficient to buy a welder rather than borrow them.
The one I'm talking about is on sale now. $200. Green colored. But I'm not sure about it. Because someone recommended the heat setting be set down to 18 to weld on the Pivots. The Harbor Freight welder settings show 1-10. Nothing about 18.

-is JD Fab saying "have a pro welder install it" just the typical liability cover-their-own-ass thing every shop says but you don't really have to listen to and use your best judgement?
Maybe it's a way of saying "We are not responsible if you choose to be dumb and use only superglue to install this structural piece"
Because I don't see why it can't be DIY mig-welded
The part is $900. Labor is probably at least 3 hours worth of work to install it, if not more. Labor charge can be up to $160/hr depending on the shop.
Fuck dropping an extra $400+ just for some other guy to lift the truck up and fire up a MIG-welder if you can do that yourself

-Their disclaimer states any truck that has been wheeled may have some frame twist. Is this something to pay $300 at a body shop to measure?
Because what if you line up the LCA pivot with the locating holes, weld it on, only to throw the truck up on the alignment rack and find out it still can't reach the factory spec alignment numbers? Now you're kinda screwed because the Pivot is welded on. Unless you cut it back off again

-What's the best configuration? I see in the group buy (would be awesome if they ran another one or Black Friday sale!) a mixture of people ordering with steel skid, aluminum skid, or no skid.
I don't know if steel would add enough weight to reduce MPG, or if other mods can make up for that such as modified Cam Gear, different gearing, etc.
I'm leaning towards aluminum just because that's what OP went with (and the diff sump skid is still steel) and it's plenty thick
but the things I've heard of aluminum ripping on rocks makes me wonder if steel is better
They say aluminum is harder to weld and requires better welding tools.
But the point is to choose smart off-roading lines and cross obstacles without beaching yourself on the rock.
Worst case if you accidentally do, it still may be possible to cut out the square section of torn aluminum skid, and weld in new material.
All while having some of that light weight aspect for a daily street driven truck

-What is the best way to paint these things (bare metal) to prevent rust?
Painting outside is easy. It's getting into holes that is hard. Like if there are cavities. For example, painting inside of a frame (if accessible), versus the outside. It's difficult to just stick an aerosol spray can up inside and then turn it, praying that you hit every bare metal section with paint. Unless you confirm with borescope.
My guess is:
1. Find which areas must be welded
2. Paint everything else first before install
3. Perform install/welding, and then paint those surfaces
One way to paint is abrasive prep. Sandblast, scotchbrite, sandpaper, whatever works. Clean. Acid etch primer. Paint coat. Clear coat.
However with nooks and crannies, it might work to give a quick spray with Brakleen, spray dry with air hose, then paint. A brush might not reach, vs. aerosol can.
The way that seems like it would suck, is doing inside a shop while truck is up on a lift.
I went through this painting a steel bumper, but it was easier because it was on my balcony. I took a week. I'd walk there, spray into the nooks and crannies on the inner side of the bumper so it doesn't rust, and as soon as it became a smoke show, I walked away and closed the door. I even put a fan on aimed outwards to blow the smoke away.
That was after masking the balcony off with clear plastic and tape.
Kinda hard to do that in an automotive shop and not force the guy next to you to huff paint.

-For welding (if you decide to make more use of buying a Harbor Freight mig welder), how do you choose metal material and where do you buy it? Metal supply places/stores?
I'm guessing answers to that and all the finer points of welding/fabrication are gonna be found more in classes, books, videos, etc...
Would be awesome if that welder can be kept and used later on for more projects as skills develop, such as fabricating bumpers, bumper hoops, swingouts, welding on sliders, etc.
Still not a bad idea to buy pre-made high quality fabricated parts from people/business and support them
but having a welder can still even be used to remove stuck hardware (welding nut onto stripped bolt, etc.)

I'm looking to repair bent pockets that have ruined alignment, and the Pivot kit install seems like a good way to do that,
all while providing numerous upgrades at the same time
-no more need for cam tab reinforcements
-can clear bigger tires
-stronger alignment tabs
-higher ground clearance and skid
-stronger hardware
-no longer knocks out alignment each wheeling trip
etc.

I'm in the process of making my own sandblaster. That might help prep as well. Sand media sprayed gets into areas where scuffing with scotchbrite cannot. Because being my own parts/truck I'd actually give a shit about doing it right, unlike the last guy I paid to powder coat a metal piece; he claimed to do perfect work. I received the piece and looked it over. It seemed like his final quality check was done at 10pm with a blindfold and flashlight with dead battery. Sections were still bare metal.
Some say powder coat is just a base layer. And for many car wheels it is. I can always go back later, scuff it up, and spray more layers on top with primer, paint, and clear.
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The Titanium MIG 140 from HF works great. We've been using it to build Coastal bumpers.

Evenflow · Nov 30, 2020

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@Evenflow that's some fancy sema level paint job. gonna have to hold your pinky out when you wheel...

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It’s so funny that anyone would think that silver vein / hammertone pc is fancy...I’m so old that I remember when hammertone colors were the total generic finish all pre fab parts came in BITD...so to me it is more of an old school retro look. One cool thing about the textured finish is that the irregular surface is more resilient to rock chips etc. My current front set up, rear links and bedcage are all the same color already.

Evenflow · Nov 30, 2020

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Does someone need a step stool?
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swivel chair smash up derby...someone was pushin that bitch like a skateboard for max impact

Evenflow · Nov 30, 2020

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@Evenflow that's some fancy sema level paint job. gonna have to hold your pinky out when you wheel...

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oh..um and that’s coming from the guy that has his entire truck color matched ...try not to scratch a color matched slider while sipping your tea lol

kasnerd · Nov 30, 2020

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oh..um and that’s coming from the guy that has his entire truck color matched ...try not to scratch a color matched slider while sipping your tea lol
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Color matched?? Is close but not a match, dumb luck. bumpers and sliders are rattle can rustoleum "hammered" silver from home depot. cheap and available when the inevitable happens. its good stuff, have used it before with excellent results.

81Trekker · Dec 1, 2020

@CMScheid ready for alignment

rayofsi · Dec 1, 2020

very noob question. with the LCA Pivots, when it pushes the LCA a full inch forward. does it place any sort of stress on the coilover or the buckets?

81Trekker · Dec 1, 2020

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very noob question. with the LCA Pivots, when it pushes the LCA a full inch forward. does it place any sort of stress on the coilover or the buckets?
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No, the top of the shock has a uniball that allows for movement

smacaulay · Dec 1, 2020

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No, the top of the shock has a uniball that allows for movement
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Hmm...this is a good point I spaced on. I just burned in my pivots and was planning on reusing my 5100's at 1" forward...I guess i'll find out. Maybe enough give in the bushings?

81Trekker · Dec 1, 2020

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Hmm...this is a good point I spaced on. I just burned in my pivots and was planning on reusing my 5100's at 1" forward...I guess i'll find out. Maybe enough give in the bushings?
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Yes 5100’s have plenty of busing flex, my first truck ran the LCA kit with 5100’s and it worked great

smacaulay · Dec 1, 2020

81Trekker[OP] said: ↑

Yes 5100’s have plenty of busing flex, my first truck ran the LCA kit with 5100’s and it worked great
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Perfect, thanks for confirming! And appreciate you answering my questions by text on Saturdays and Sundays...great product support!

Sociopenguin · Dec 1, 2020

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@CMScheid ready for alignment

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Been waiting to see ADS on an LT'd Taco.......

81Trekker · Dec 1, 2020

smacaulay said: ↑

Perfect, thanks for confirming! And appreciate you answering my questions by text on Saturdays and Sundays...great product support!
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