Autism and gun ownership (Another one of PennSilverTaco's BS threads)

I'm guessing you didn't actually do this to your truck?

 

I have one and like it very much. Very reliable, accurate, easy to shoot, easy to field strip, easy to clean. It will eat any weight and type of round. Not at all fussy on ammo.

Fit and finish compare pretty well to my S&W 3rd Gen semi autos.

One thing that I really like is that unlike Glock, you don't have to pull the trigger to field strip it.

I bought mine just before the SHTF with Covid and riots and right now, they are very hard to find. Then again, so is every other gun model.

Prices vary, but I paid $300.00 plus tax for mine. I haven't seen any better pricing than that.

I had reason to call customer service about a minor problem and they shipped the parts to fix it right out to me.

It's about the same size as a G43 and holsters for those guns will fit.

 

Here's a good place to check for ammo.

https://www.wikiarms.com/group/9mm

 

A bit late, but welcome to the club! Have you bought your first gun yet?

 

No, not yet...

 

Good luck, it might be a pain with everything going on right now. It took me five weeks on a waitlist just to get a single box of 9 mil. I'd still recommend getting at least a handgun, just in case the market gets even worse.

 

My father has an mc1sc. Both he and I like it. Nice trigger out of the box, good fit in the hand, and only failures were when a family friend was shooting it with a limp wrist. It will stovepipe almost every shot if limp wristed.
I would say also check the MC2SC, it is double stack.

 

My nightstand

 

IMOP, unless you have some money you just have to "Burn" there is absolutely no reason to purchase the Mossberg, Ya, it's cheap & we all know about cheap guns, didn't Remington come out with a cheap "joke" a couple of years ago, if I remember correct it got some good reviews. There are just too many proven guns to choose from, to drop a name Bersa!!!!

 

Personally, I have a strong dislike for handguns without a manual external safety. I get that "your finger is your safety" and if you treat your handgun as you should then the safety shouldn't be necessary, but there's a certain peace of mind that comes with having an external safety. Also, try to hold one before buying. That way you'll know if it actually fits your hand. Nothing worse than buying a gun and finding out it's not comfortable to shoot.

 

I've owned a Bersa. The MC1sc is much better made. It's easy to shoot, easy to maintain, accurate and reliable. I was pleasantly surprised at how good it is. So far, it has eaten every type of round I've put through it. The Bersa, which was .380, was very fussy about bullet weight and shape.

The Remington R51 prototypes that gun magazines tested were hand built and fitted. The transition to production produced huge problems. Remington bought back all of the ones they sold and then re engineered them. I was surprised that they actually re introduced them a few years ago. Unlike the Mossberg, they are not on the approved roster in my state, so I can't buy one or even find a place to rent one. No problem though, because the Mossberg does what I need it to.

As far as external safeties, I started out shooting revolvers. No external safety, so I had to learn proper gun handling.

 

Ya, maybe i came down on the Mossberg a little heavy, I shouldn't have because i haven't handled one or infact seen one, so I stand corrected on that. However i do stand behind my opinion on proven 9mms, if I am just purchasing for range work, fun plinking etc: & had the extra cash I might purchase a "New Kid on the Block" If I am purchasing for personnel or home protection, I am going with a gun that has some history behind it. That being said, my personal preference for both is a revolver, I own & have owned a few autos & each and every one would have a "hicup" now & then. My experence with the Bersa has been quite the opposite, purchased one several years ago and for the heck of it I put it through "shooting Hell" I abused the heck out of that little .380, & it performed well, it alway went bang. I am thinking about another Bersa in 9mm. If I may have misspoke in regards to the MCIsc, Good Luck

 

My revolver/gun handling comment wasn't aimed at you. I was just too lazy to quote the other post.

My go to self defense pistols are the older S&W semi automatic pistols. Hence my sig line. Those perhaps the best semi autos ever made. Big statement, but I own and have shot enough to know it's true. Sadly, they stopped making them because they were not price competitive with Glock and other polymer frame guns. Much easy to injection mold a frame than to stamp one out in a forge and then do all of the machine work.

Anyway, the Mossberg has been just as reliable. It's compact, light to carry in a pocket or IWB holster, reliable and accurate. The reason I own it is for when I travel out of state. Unlike many of the S&W guns, it's easy to replace if something happens.

I had a Bersa Thunder 380CC. It took me two years to get it to function reliably. I finally decided that I had enough of it and sold it. Of course, if I had waited about three months, I could have sold it for a lot more than I did. Pandemic Panic buying.

 

Like I said, it's just a personal preference. It doesn't replace proper gun handling, just adds an extra layer of protection in the event of the unlikely (clothes catching in the trigger guard while holstering, etc).

 

Reviving this thread; I don't think I will will ever buy any Mossberg firearm that isn't a shotgun or a rifle...

The very same friend who introduced me to shooting bought an AR-type .22 pistol, but found it to have a pretty significant deficiency; When he loaded the bullets, they'd get warped or something (indentations in the brass?). He sent the magazine to Mossberg for warranty repairs and they couldn't fix it; He ended up trading the Mossberg for a .22 Glock. He owns two 9mm pistols and bought the Glock solely for target shooting because .22 rounds are cheaper.

 

HOLY REVIVED THREADS, BATMAN!

Figured I'd let you know that I went shooting for the very first time in September 2020 and I LOVED IT! I was wearing hearing protection of course, and the noise did not bother me in the slightest! I also went to my county courthouse, filled out an application for a carry permit, and got it in less than an hour!

 

By "multipurpose", I mean a gun that is excellent for sport/target shooting at the range, but is still compact enough that it can be easily and comfortably hidden for concealed carry; Why should I buy one gun for the range and one for concealed carry/personal protection when I can save money by buying one that does well for both purposes?

I finally went shooting for the first time just under three months ago; My friend rented a .22 Glock 44 to get me started, and then I fired his wife's Smith & Wesson 9mm and his Walther PPS 9mm. I now realize that I LOVE shooting! Less than a month ago, I went and got my concealed carry permit just so I could get that out of the way; It was easy as pie, it cost me just over twenty bucks, and I was in and out in under an hour! Yes, Pennsylvania is one of the easiest states in which to obtain a CCW!

My first choice would be a Glock 19 or any subcompact Glock chambered in 9mm; However, while everybody I know who owns a Glock absolutely loves it, people who aren't rabid Glock fans tell me that while they are excellent weapons, people tend to buy them without giving other brands a chance because Glock is very well-known and they are the service weapon of choice for pretty much every cop in America. My dad has a Glock that he's willing to let me fire at the range, but that's his gun and I want my own.

My overall impression of the Smith & Wesson I fired in September was very good; It seemed like a quality weapon, and it was heavy enough that it didn't have a huge recoil. I've also got a friend who has a Smith & Wesson 9mm for concealed carry, and she loves the thing! On the flipside, the Walther I fired was also of high quality, but it was lighter than the S&W and had a significant recoil by comparison. I think Walther makes fine weapons based on what I've read about them, but they just don't tickle my fancy the way similar guns from Glock, S&W, H&K, and Taurus do.

I also like what I see in Kimber, especially their 1911s, but I'm not sure that a 1911 would be the greatest concealed carry weapon for someone just getting started, and with Kimber you definitely pay for the quality! I do like Colt, but another Aspie I know who owns numerous firearms says that new Colts don't offer the same quality as older models for the price; Don't think I'm interested in Colt right now.

Also, I want to take classes before I start carrying, but with COVID ramping back up I am nervous about doing anything in-person and will likely wait a few months.

 

I only have one question.....
Why do you need a concealed weapon Charlie?

 

In case it gets harder to obtain one in the future, and I just feel like it would make things less complicated if I get pulled over while driving to the range with a handgun or two in my truck. One of my coworkers, who's never fired a gun in his life, went and got his CCW so he would have it if things get any worse than they already are.