Failing rear end at 12k miles on the cartel truck, thinking of use my factory warranty.

0 to Snoop Dogg, this thread is easily 8 Cheech and Chong's.

 

The problem TW has with this post is that you showed up and bashed Toyota's reliability over a modded used truck you bought from a DEA auction and then proceeded to bag on it. If I were you, I would have never brought Toyota's reliability into question to begin with. If you bought the truck new and drove it like you were driving Miss Daisy you may have had a warmer welcoming party.

 

Ya didn't realize people's identities were so wrapped up with a bunch of engineers they have never met so my bad on that one for sure. Also there are loads of people on here, and I have come to find out across the internet have done exactly that and still have this harmonics issue. Figured I would throw my experience out there with the cavitate that this is not my daily, it is my camp, hunt, fish, and work truck, and has a sketchy past. However, I did not buy it directly from the auction I bought it from a small local dealer who got it there. Before I even bought it I took samples and checked all the driveline fluids, diffs, transfer case, and auto tranny to find out that they were all clean as a whistle. I do not think it is a far-fetched assumption that since the fluids were clean all of the gears were likely in working order and somewhat well broken in/treated.

 

Jesus with you peoples reactions you'd think someone was strapping you down and making you read this thread, if you don't want to hear about it, don't read it, that simple. Unless the truck was driven off a cliff I find it strange that it is having a harmonic issue at 13k miles and only a few years, but if you don't find that strange, I could care less don't read. I put it out there to maybe give the lost DIYer like myself some direction on where to go with their diagnosis, that's it. Done posting about this, got wayy to toxic for some reason.

 

I think most of the sarcasm came from a single line in the OP:

 

I don't get what you guys don't get. I literally admitted I beat the fuck out of it but I don't think a single person here can give me a reason by that would cause a harmonic tone, other than the accident but it started almost a full week after that so again not seeing the causation. Maybe I am the only one here with the expectation of not having mistery gremlins pop up with a little beaten around. Anyone who has ever had the unfortunate luck of trying to drive with the e brake on knows what that sounds like, it ain't good. I mentioned this when I was still under the impression it had something to do with the pinion bearing or gear, if that where the case it would be visible in the oil and certainly would have shown up on the sample.

 

Geez dude just read your original post. You did a horrible job of communicating that you have a diff whine. It's simply a harmonic. No damage... no issue except a whine between a narrow mph band. It bothers some people, not so much others. It also only affects some trucks.

 

Acording to tacoma world. Im lucky. No issues with my truck aside it has a lower payload then my wife's Acord. Yes a Honda accord is rated to hold more payload

The guy has issues which are normal which nobody should have. That is Toyota bullshit. Yes they are reliable overall but bull. No corporate entity that exists to make money is perfect.

Nothing wrong with him asking questions.

Ps. Did have an axle(and there for wheel) fall out off my Chevy on a highway exit ramp... Did i abuse it going 30 around a gentle bend lol.

An no can't spell. I'm and engimineer lol

 

I would wager you are probably in the category of most 3d gen owners buy in large they are great trucks. It's definitely is every company out there, I'm not dumping on Toyota in particular. I had a chevy that's torque converter blew at 80k. This said I have personally seen 2'd gen stand up to much more abuse on the trail and come out kickin. I am not saying the 3d gen sucks, I am the one who spent my money on it, just puttin info out there for people to do with as they please. At first, I got some legit replies informing me about the common harmonics issues that people have been reporting in their trucks, that is what actually sent me down the right investigative road. So I figured I'd try and be a good citizen of TW and pass on the info, not really a whole lot to it.

 

Your right. I think it is a great truck for what i do with it. Its my daily as a sales engineer, I can pull a modest travel trailer and I can go to home depo or wood supplier as I build furniture. I like the idea of its off road abilities (Not that mine can) but would prefer a 2 inch wider bed between the wheels so we can fit a 4x8. Only issue i have with it as if you do ANYTHING truck like you are over payload assuming you have the long bed double cab. So im over payload when i haul or move anything..

Tacoma world peeps generally AWESOME and very helpful, but we need a little Tyson lol. The guys that hang around the towing section super helpful.

Im glade you got some help, this group sure as hell helped me.

 

Id guess you, just saying =)
Hows the snow?

 

This was my one regret buying this truck, I gotta say though she feels like she can take a solid 1.5-2000 lbs with the new 1500's in there. The only problem with the stock shocks is they are just too dang loose from the factory in my humble opinion. Especially if you try and go off-road with it loaded down even a little, I took it for one 3 day camping trip with the stock shocks and realized something had to change. If you ever go to replace the shocks would definitely take some time to look around and find yourself a good deal for something comparable to the stock ones, really makes it feel like a much more solid ride.

 

Im on the SR5 shocks, i did install the sumo springs (the bump stop replacement) to help under load. No plans to change the shocks now as im lower mileage and basically on road. But thank you for the info!

 

I have been meaning to check those things out, how are they? Are they any taller than the factory bumps or are they the same size just foam?

 

you have the standard diff whine. I had it, and many others had it. It’s apparently not the cause of a malfunction. I believe Toyota’s fix is some kind of sound insulation.

1000s of 5.29 gears have been sold and installed, I can’t think of anyone, who had the whine, that pulled out their diffs and saw some sort of damage.

 

Also, I complained to a service rep about the diff whine.

And after 10 minutes of talking about my Manual Transmission, the guy had the nerve to say it was a normal noise caused by my torque converter. I didn’t know if he was being a conman or just an idiot.

 

MUCH taller, on my truck i get about a 3rd inch of travel BEFORE they hit, just about a pinky finger. Im debating cutting about 1/2" off the top.

They basically support the truck in a Stiffer linear fashion strait off the axle. How they are "designed" to work is you have .5-.75" (in some trucks not Tacoma, at least not heavy double long bed) of zero ride change. Only on larger bumps or under load will they be used. Truck rides more truck like as the back is stiff, and oddly its more responsive. Rather then the back sagging a lot when you accelerate, they hit. This stops the rear dive and makes you feel like your accelerating faster from a stop. Also they act as a sway bar when turning. Truck cant lean so much before the foam starts to "help".

Bought them for my towing my trailer, which I don't have yet... so really cant tell you under heavy load yet. Id say im very confident the truck would handle a bed full of firewood better (yes i did this and yes i hit bump stops hard). I have the weakest 500lb type at half compression(about 2"). Im glade i got them as for our relatively smaller trucks the 1000lb would be way to much less you are that hard core guy. When you hit a big pump or large dip Definitely stiffens up the back but engagement is smooth if firm.

I will say i wont run over a speed bump as fast as i use to. For the experience i have $200 and 15 min install, worth it. I also light how sway would be frame, foam spring, axel. Not frame 2ft spring, hangers, axle. Less ass movement in the wind.