1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Let's See Your Dogs!!

Discussion in 'Pets' started by TJOPILOT, Sep 8, 2007.

  1. Dec 16, 2020 at 7:19 AM
    stevesnj

    stevesnj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Member:
    #77385
    Messages:
    7,651
    Gender:
    Male
    South Jersey/Philly Area
    Vehicle:
    1996 Land Cruiser 80 Series
    I give mine Benadryl also for something and it works great. Also Pepcid for bad breath and if he's belching or farting a lot. Remember that Vets make money for the meds they prescribe. A lot of human meds work on dogs and luckily my vet lets me know which ones to help with money savings.
     
    tacotoe likes this.
  2. Dec 16, 2020 at 7:25 AM
    ian408

    ian408 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Member:
    #25619
    Messages:
    19,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    Santa Clara, CA
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma
    Benadryl and antibiotics are not the same thing. Benadryl works pretty well for scratching/skin irritation but it does not get rid of whatever is causing the scratching (or ear infection)-that's what the ABs do. Benadryl also works to calm dogs.
     
    tacotoe and stevesnj[QUOTED] like this.
  3. Dec 16, 2020 at 10:44 AM
    Slick Taco

    Slick Taco Id Rather Be Airborne

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2018
    Member:
    #263031
    Messages:
    1,778
    Gender:
    Male
    Lost somewhere in the PNW
    Vehicle:
    Current vehicles: 2019 Rav4 Lunar Rock. 2018 TRD OR DCSB KD Max tuned. 2010 Tundra Limited Crew Max . 1991 4Runner Crawler. Ivan Stewart Edition
    KD Max Tune, King 2.5 coil overs T.C. UCA's, Deaver leafs, 17x9 Black Rhyno Warlords, 33" Toyo M/T's, Metal Tech rear bumper, Westin HDX drop steps with Bullet Liner coating, K&N CAI, Baja Designs fog pods, Rigid Midnight addition 3" pod ditch lights. Cali Raised brackets and 32" behind the grill mounted light bar, Southern Style Offroad Lopro Stage II front bumper, Warn winch, FACTOR 55 Ultra Hook, FACTOR 55 Hawes Fairleed, full debadge, Cosmetic goodies such as 15% carbon tint, matte black in channel rain guards, interior LED's, Teton Workshop shift knob, Inferno vinyl detailing on the interior, Cali Raised multi rocker switch cubby insert with Mc Tuning LED switches and a few other mods I've probably left out.
    Its not for everyone but remember man invented cooking not animals and although your dog has learned to sit and stay it's genetically identical to the Coyotes roaming your neighbohood.

    This all applies to cats as well.

    Bone are easily broken down by a dogs digestive system. Thats what it was designed to do. When a dog in the wild eats its kill it eats the whole animal. As far as contamination..dogs are not effected by the same bacteria we are. Dogs are scavengers and will eat form a kill days old with no adverse effects . Processed formulated "raw" from the pet store is no better than kibble. Wild dogs don't eat carrots or peas or green beans so why would your genetically identical dog need these veggies? My dogs eat strictly raw meat, bone, skin and innards that I purchase either from the grocery store or from my local butcher. Thats it. No veggies, no rice no potatoes and ofcourse no corn or other grains that their wild counterparts would NEVER eat.

    I agree the convenience factor is out the window. Prep takes more time and road trips require an extra cooler.

    As far as cost it's really no more expensive. I was spending $75 for a 25lb bag on grain free high quality kibble x3 bags per month on my four dogs at $3 per pound=$225 a month. Im spending about the same a month on raw because they eat less. The nutrients are being absorbed rather that just passing through and ending up as a huge pile in your yard. I'm actually spending less having zero vet bills. 99% of the ailments affecting our pets is related to their diet.

    Just like anything..you get out what you put in. My health happy 16 year old lab, who walks 3 miles a day and plays like he's a pup is testament to this.

    Sorry if I came across as preaching but I'm passionate about the health and well being of my dogs and want the same for everyone's pups.
     
    tacotoe and hack4875 like this.
  4. Dec 16, 2020 at 11:36 AM
    308savage

    308savage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Member:
    #180389
    Messages:
    4,929
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    East Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    2012 Tacoma TRD Sport DCSB
    Leveling kit, roll bar
    She got a new harness for Christmas. Only because she outgrew the last one.

    E912036C-3316-411C-9601-FB22401D48C8.jpg 6BD94316-7763-42C0-B8E5-AD38345909E6.jpg
     
  5. Dec 16, 2020 at 12:47 PM
    ian408

    ian408 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Member:
    #25619
    Messages:
    19,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    Santa Clara, CA
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma
    I'm not sure you can make any easy comparisons between domesticated dogs and wild dogs. We are talking centuries of domestication. Either way, bones can become lodged in the digestive tract, they can break teeth, or they may splinter causing other damage. That's a fact. And while dogs are pretty good at raw diets, they can be infected with Salmonella, L. monocytogenes, or E. Coli. You can also be infected by handling infected food-good kitchen hygiene matters. As far as what happens in dogs, E. Coli or Salmonella can cause damage. LM might give your dog the trots but is not serious. E. Coli or Salmonella can be life threatening.

    Like I said, raw diets can great for dogs. And as for any diet, you want to provide a nutritionally balanced diet. Whether that's from a pre-packaged or home made raw food or kibble. As far as cost, raw food is about 2x the cost. Maybe slightly more.

    Like you, I want the best for Riley and spent a fair bit of time researching diets-including talking to the vet. I've made two changes to his diet over 11 years and for most of his life, he's been on a novel protein diet. Things like Salmon, Duck, Lamb are considered novel proteins. He's on a weight management diet now, not because he's fat but because it's works better for him at this stage in his life. Because weight management diets are higher in fiber, he does crap more but volume wise, he's pretty consistent.

    What's the point of all this? Whatever you decide to do feed wise, do some research and make your decisions based on the needs of your dog. Learn the pros and cons of diets you're considering feeding. And work out how many calories you should be feeding based on ideal body weight, desired weight, medical needs, etc. .

    Pretty fascinating subject.
     
    Slick Taco[QUOTED] likes this.
  6. Dec 16, 2020 at 2:11 PM
    stevesnj

    stevesnj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Member:
    #77385
    Messages:
    7,651
    Gender:
    Male
    South Jersey/Philly Area
    Vehicle:
    1996 Land Cruiser 80 Series
  7. Dec 16, 2020 at 2:44 PM
    ian408

    ian408 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2009
    Member:
    #25619
    Messages:
    19,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ian
    Santa Clara, CA
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma
    Handsome pup! Happy Pup!
     
    stevesnj[QUOTED] likes this.
  8. Dec 16, 2020 at 11:05 PM
    ThaiChillyTaco

    ThaiChillyTaco David aka Chilly aka Booty Freak

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2016
    Member:
    #184216
    Messages:
    4,480
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Goose Creek - South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2021 Cement Grey TRD Off-road 4x4 Longbed
    Rough Country 3.5 Lift SCS BR6 wheels rolling in 285/70/17 Falken Wildpeaks
    Little lady must have some corgi in her genes. Those ears and face scream corgi.
     
    308savage[QUOTED] likes this.
  9. Dec 17, 2020 at 5:06 AM
    308savage

    308savage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Member:
    #180389
    Messages:
    4,929
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    East Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    2012 Tacoma TRD Sport DCSB
    Leveling kit, roll bar
    Red heeler and long haired dachshund
     
    tacotoe likes this.
  10. Dec 17, 2020 at 7:12 AM
    TenBeers

    TenBeers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2009
    Member:
    #18067
    Messages:
    7,696
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Bentonville, AR
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD Pro Cavalry Blue
    Yeah.
    Either way, pretty sure she can hear my thoughts!
     
    tacotoe and 308savage[QUOTED] like this.
  11. Dec 17, 2020 at 7:54 AM
    Knute

    Knute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Member:
    #337515
    Messages:
    5,148
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '06 4.0L Tacoma TRD Sport
    Stock, 4WD, Access Cab, White,
    Has anyone considered a miniature schnauzer (terrier) or standard schnauzer (working)?

    Not too big, mini <17 lb, standard <50 lb. There is also the giant schnauzer, this guy is big, 80+ lb (IIRC)
    High intelligence (ranked 12th)
    non shedding
    robust
    strong
    stubborn
    loving
    strong bond to a Master
    big dog in small package attitude, they will talk "dog smack" to a much bigger dog.
    Very keen nose and hearing.

    Its winter in IA, I put a "jacket" on him when temperature or windchill is below 10 F. Snow booties when temp falls below 0F.
    We walk roughly 2-3 hours total each day spread out over 4 walks, regardless of the weather.

    If you dig into their breeding, you will discover they are from Germany. The mini was used as a varmint hunter and an alert system on farms. The mini was frequently paired with a German Shepard. The mini's hearing and alert then the Shepard was the muscle. The standard was a working dog (guarding, herding, pulling carts....) also used on farms.

    I was able to teach my dog the sit command in about 3 sessions. I have a friend with a bulldog........after 4 years, my friend is still working on reliable sit command with his bulldog.

    I've only found 2 downsides to my mini. Grooming needs to be an regular weekly activity. Barking can be annoying, but can be trained when barking is appropriate.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2020
    CXYyuppie likes this.
  12. Dec 17, 2020 at 8:22 AM
    Knute

    Knute Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Member:
    #337515
    Messages:
    5,148
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '06 4.0L Tacoma TRD Sport
    Stock, 4WD, Access Cab, White,
    Oh, about feeding bones to dogs and a few other tidbits.

    ONLY give them RAW UNCOOKED bones. Cooked bones become hard and brittle. The cooked bones will splinter which are prone to perforating the digestive track. Be watchful when giving a large bone, weight bearing bones, many times these are too hard and can lead to cracked teeth. My mini-schnauzer has no trouble with a raw chicken leg or chicken thigh or a turkey neck.

    A dog's stomach has a pH around 1. They DO NOT have the enzymes to process starch. The dog digestive track is short and unable to ferment starches or grains. All dogs are direct descendants of wolves, less than 1% difference in the DNA. Dogs will eat fruits and veggies in the wild, although not a primary food source.

    Dogs and man came together roughly 33,000 years ago. Only in the last century or so is when man began feeding processed starch based food to dogs. Raw is the best diet for this animal. There is a raging debate concerning dog food. Some support that dogs have evolved to digest the kibble. Others say that evolution takes longer than 100 years to change an animal. Marketing has a strong influence on the public and perks for Vets.

    If you really want to learn about the ingredients in kibble, do some deep research. You will likely be disgusted by the "meat" sources, 4D meat (Dead, Dying, Disabled, Diseased). Then you will begin to discover the "fillers" in kibble, powdered cellulose for example. If you get though those, then comes the processing of the kibble, spray on flavor and scent.
     
  13. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:15 AM
    pittim

    pittim mittip backwards

    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Member:
    #6939
    Messages:
    18,968
    Gender:
    Male
    Pennsyltucky
    Vehicle:
    Boujee Prius
    It’sa Lexus, boogie woogie woogie
    I feed my pup Fromm Highlander because I like the plaid design on the bag.
     
  14. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:22 AM
    pabstsmeared

    pabstsmeared Simulated Weight

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Member:
    #271925
    Messages:
    2,870
    First Name:
    Matt
    Tappahannock, Va
    Vehicle:
    '13 Super White DCSB TX Baja
    Mud Tars & Shit
    Smells like updogs in here.

    IMG_1351.jpg
     
  15. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:51 AM
    CXYyuppie

    CXYyuppie Sarcasm Master

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2019
    Member:
    #281028
    Messages:
    2,081
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Craig
    SE.LA
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD Sport DCSB - Cement
    Stuff with some other black things
    We had 2 Mini Schnauzers. Great dogs. These dogs have been well cared for. Some animals just don't live as long as others in the same breed. We had to put the male down earlier this year due to complications related to S.A.R.D.s. The female has developed diabetes. We have to give the little girl shots twice a day. She is ripped with muscles. She is a great squirrel dog and she thinks she is 100 lbs even though only 11 lbs. She does not back down from any other dog. She likes to play with the neighbor's black lab and GSP. We got them both at the same time as puppies and took them in once for grooming. Since then, my wife learned how to groom them from watch a ton of YouTube videos. The male was a bit bigger at 17 lbs and had a louder bark but the little girl ruled the roost. I highly recommend this breed for any one looking for a good inside dog that does not really require a bunch of maintenance.
     
  16. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:52 AM
    TenBeers

    TenBeers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2009
    Member:
    #18067
    Messages:
    7,696
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Bentonville, AR
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD Pro Cavalry Blue
    Yeah.
    I'll bite. WHAT'S UPDOGS?

    IMG_2787.jpg
     
    SuperBad, tacotoe, la0d0g and 21 others like this.
  17. Dec 17, 2020 at 10:12 AM
    308savage

    308savage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Member:
    #180389
    Messages:
    4,929
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    East Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    2012 Tacoma TRD Sport DCSB
    Leveling kit, roll bar
    And every other dog in the neighborhood!
     
  18. Dec 17, 2020 at 10:14 AM
    pabstsmeared

    pabstsmeared Simulated Weight

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Member:
    #271925
    Messages:
    2,870
    First Name:
    Matt
    Tappahannock, Va
    Vehicle:
    '13 Super White DCSB TX Baja
    Mud Tars & Shit
    Yooooooo, not shit. What's up with you?

    Okay now that that's out of the way...... Puppers! Not sure why I never posted in here.
     
    tacotoe likes this.
  19. Dec 17, 2020 at 12:34 PM
    308savage

    308savage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Member:
    #180389
    Messages:
    4,929
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    East Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    2012 Tacoma TRD Sport DCSB
    Leveling kit, roll bar
    These things work pretty good for $20. Cheaper than taking her back to the vet for a nail trim.

    D2B8BF24-A1C7-4279-99BB-B2C8F1FC85D0.jpg
     
    tacotoe likes this.
  20. Dec 17, 2020 at 1:42 PM
    USMC - Retired

    USMC - Retired No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2019
    Member:
    #288256
    Messages:
    1,142
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gunns
    Ty Ty, Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2018 DCSB Quicksand
    Growin like a weed!

    PSX_20201217_163840.jpg
     

Products Discussed in

To Top