Made in Mexico or Texas; which has the highest quality and least problems?

I don't care what company manufactures a vehicle, only prefer that its built in this country. I don't want our american dollars to go to mexico, or other countries workers if they can be spent here. We should be able to pick what vehicle we want to drive/own, not just our domestics if you can call them that. I think some are getting the wrong idea with this thread.

 

Texan truck here....no issues other than the fuel pump recall/wave sensor and ecu software that Toyota should have fixed years ago but is better with the latest TSB.

 

Keep dreaming. That giant sucking sound you are hearing? It’s the US government not caring.

 

So, what you're saying is, as long as the vehicle is made here, thats all that matters to you. What about the fact the company is headquartered elsewhere, and the profits go to those who own the company, not the workers on the assembly line outside of their paycheck? Even if your truck were assembled here, your American dollars are going outside of the country because Toyota isn't headquartered here. It is after all, a Japanese company.

Additionally, what about the dealership who sells the vehicle, or services the vehicle, are they not American enough? The funny part is, the assembly of the vehicle is such a minor cost in the grand scheme of things related to the total vehicle ownership experience. Especially with technology and machines automating much of the process and eliminating the need for more actual workers.

The point of this thread was to determine if vehicles made at different plants have a differing level of quality. Not your opinion regarding purchasing American made because a desire to keep your dollars here, which really aren't here anyway.

 

Sure profits will go back to foreign companies, you can't have everything being a global market. At least be thankful they keep our workers here employed earning a living, plus were collecting tax's with plants in the u.s., I can't understand why anyone would go against that.

 

Forgot to add whether ford, gm, toyota or anyone else, its up to them to set qc standards for vehicles. Imo, toyota is more stringent for long term ownership for what they will allow.

 

Mexico built, no problems other than just noticed a few months ago the bumper is slightly out of alignment, not enough to worry about. Cant believe I didnt notice it earlier. Thats it. Well, except for when I bought it it had what looked like a cig burn on the pass seat, it only had 2 miles on it when I bought it. But dealer replaced the bottom pass seat leather cover, so no problem. As for that, just did the driveability TSB and noticed today it shifted less on the freeway near my house, but power and shifting didnt seem like a problem with my truck anyway.

 

Mine's from Mexico, it has been absolutely great. There's no meaningful difference between the Texan and Mexican trucks. They're the same truck, just built in different places. Both locations are held to the same quality standards and use the same materials to build them.

 

It's all a crap shoot . The parts/ assemblies are made all over the world and contracts for parts for the assemblies change with the lowest bidders etc. You just have to get lucky for a great truck . Most will be average , and some will be lemons . Mine was a 2016 from Mexico and after the initial TSBs it has been a great truck for the 31K I have driven it since new .

 

Toyota, in general, uses suppliers within the Toyota group of companies (Aisin, Denso, JTEKT, etc.) or affiliates (Mazda, Panasonic, Subaru, Yamaha, etc.). There are exceptions of course, though from experience it usually seems to often be a logistics issue more than an outright cost issue (Toyota supplier cannot supply in large enough quantities, earthquake has shut down a factory, etc.).

Toyota also seems to slowly test/move over to local suppliers over time as well, as seen with the use of Dana prop shafts in the Tacoma, BorgWarner for the transfer case, or CTS for accelerator pedal sensors.

I'm sure cost plays a factor of course, but in my experience it seems Toyota generally chooses quality/availability first before outright component cost, and instead focuses cost savings on supply/process refinement.

Jeff

 

Mexi-taco here...bunch of little issues like loose and rattling parts that I’ve had the dealer fix. Window seals have almost fallen off driving down the road at 4K miles. Tranny fluid was low from the factory. Other than that, typical 3rd gen stuff like the braking rumble strip that’s “normal” in 2 dealers opinion.

 

This is true, just follow the money. With the average wage in Mexico @ $ 6.00 hr. (CNC Machinist: $6.02 hr, Welder:$4.14 hr, CNC Operator:$4.32 hr, Painter: $3.84 hr etc.) and the average UAW worker making $28.00 to $38.00 hr. not including benifits, where are you going to open a company? With 12.6 Million unemployed (7.6%), we don't need no work here.

 

San Antonio built Pro MT. No issues other than the fuel pump that isn't specific to origin.

 

Seriously, you think because you bought a Tacoma that somehow magic will happen and the money Toyota made off you will stay with the Tacoma platform? Um no. Your money might be used in Japan or WV for Camry transmissions. Our "american dollars" could go anywhere. Ford and GM are same. Dodge dollars go to Fiat. And... get this... the dollars made in Mexico or Japan could be spent right here in the US of A! Global companies are... global. And...even more confusing...sometimes manufacturing in a LCC (low cost country) might actually cost more to produce now but strategically down the road there might be an advantage. That shit happens too.
I know you don't mean quality and I understand your reservations but even if Toyota made your truck down the street from you there is zero chance your money you spent all stays there.

 

Might I suggest a poll Texas Vs Mexico, good and bad for each?

 

forgot, my tranny was a bit low also.

 

In answer to the original question, only Toyota knows the defect rate. And they are NOT telling any of us.

This question comes up frequently. It usually gravitates to protecting US jobs and interests, and a subsequent shit show.


It’s getting cold outside. Can we light the dumpster?

 

As I general rule; I tend to buy the best (reasonable) product available for my purposes; regardless of who, what or where... the incentive should go to the best producer - the rest should be motivated to improve.

The soviets (also GDR, etc.) tried promoting consumption of only soviet made products and limiting availability of foreign production. - I forget how that worked out...

For the stated intent to work out - all the pennies should be followed (as was previously mentioned...) Most people do not come even close to putting in the effort in doing their homework so come anywhere close to support the argument - but instead find other ways to 'rationalize' their bias...

 

Wish they were assembled in Japan like the 4runners. I think then you’d see a more noticeable difference. Mine was from the Texas plant, CPS failed under warranty and left me stranded, aside from that my truck has been reliable, just clocked 120,000 on the odometer.

 

For what it's worth, the CPS that failed was made in Japan.

Jeff