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Rear shock collapsed?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Emmetjmcc4, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. Dec 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM
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    FreshOldTaco

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    Shock measurements to compare yours to:

    • Extended Length = 24.75″
    • Collapsed Length = 15.65″
    • Eyelet diameter = 9/16″
     
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  2. Dec 30, 2020 at 3:53 PM
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    Did you install them correctly? I believe those springs are driver/passenger side specific.
     
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  3. Dec 30, 2020 at 4:51 PM
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    Like I said earlier, I hire my work out so I just have to hope that they installed them correctly.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2020 at 5:12 PM
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    can you send some photos of the main bolts on the front of the leaf springs where it meets the frame? just tossing out ideas, but based on the rust you have op maybe check out that mounting bracket as well as the bushing in the front of the leaf spring
     
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  5. Dec 30, 2020 at 5:16 PM
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    Either way, check the numbers on the springs and see if they're on the correct sides
     
  6. Dec 30, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    Low tire pressure on driver side rear
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  7. Dec 30, 2020 at 6:45 PM
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    Numbers on the springs? Where do I find them and how do I know what side is supposed to be what?
     
  8. Dec 30, 2020 at 6:50 PM
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    Look on top of the spring. Usually in between the front and the center pin. If you find it plug it into the interwebs and see what you get.
     
  9. Dec 30, 2020 at 7:04 PM
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    I should be able to handle that
     
  10. Jan 5, 2021 at 1:06 PM
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    Something looks amiss to me as well
     
  11. Jan 5, 2021 at 1:09 PM
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    I noticed that as well. The shocks are far too long
     
  12. Jan 5, 2021 at 1:18 PM
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    I took a screenshot and zoomed in, it looks to me that there is more to the passengers side spring than driver’s side. I think I can count 7 layers of mysteriousness on pass side for whatever reason
     
  13. Jan 5, 2021 at 1:21 PM
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    Or the 64oz Slurpee was placed in passenger side cup holder....
     
  14. Jan 5, 2021 at 2:17 PM
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    Did you get the All-Pro Standard or the All-Pro Expo? The Expo version provides 3" of lift with 400-500 lbs. of extra weight. Unloaded they provide 4" of lift. The Standard are for standard trucks and provide 3" lift unloaded.

    Next question, are you sure All-Pro or Trail-Gear or whoever TF owns them now didn't send you one Standard pack and one Expo? It would be easy to determine. The Expo has one additional spring. If you installed one with a spring rate of 207lbs./in. on one side and one with 154lbs./in. on the other that might account for a screwy ride height.

    I have the All-Pro Standard and don't remember them being side-specific when I installed them but it's been a couple years. I looked back at pictures I had and there is no indicator of side, they only say "4500T-AP-3" on both.

    Next, I can't see the top eyelet on your driver side shock. Is it fubar'd from rust? Can't see the front leaf spring eyelet. Has it had a rust failure?

    Last theory, if you have Standards they're not meant for alot of weight. I see a camper shell and you said you were riding around with 4 tires and rims. My tires weigh 60 lbs. a piece and the rims are 24 lbs. each. That's an extra 336 lbs. of weight, not sure what yours weighed in at or what that old shell weighs but if you took all that out on a trail the leafs may not have been able to hold it and your shocks look like they're gonna bottom out. Maybe that caused some damage. I don't know.

    One thing's for sure, those shocks are on the verge of bottoming out. Mine for reference, not the best angle but you get the idea:

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  15. Jan 5, 2021 at 2:19 PM
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    Also, pretty cool that Relentless Fab is in here trying to help figure it out. Don’t see too many vendors offering the random assist.
     
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  16. Jan 5, 2021 at 2:39 PM
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    They more I think about the more I agree with others about one or more of the bed/cab mounts failing. Makes more sense than the shock or leaf spring eyelet having damage, think that'd lead to a more catastrophic lean....
     
  17. Jan 5, 2021 at 3:07 PM
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    I don't think it's body mounts, in the first pics he posted you can see the trailer hitch is leaning with the body which indicates the frame is leaning. If it was mounts the body and frame would be out of alignment.
     
  18. Jan 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM
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    Apparently his askew suspension issues caused him to careen from a cliff afire. I hope he had his seatbelt on and nothing in the cupholder.... ehhhhhh
     
  19. Jan 7, 2021 at 6:28 AM
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    Sorry guys, im back! Had some stuff I've had to deal with. So I unloaded the tires and rims but I still have to get to work so I just drove it the last few days. Sitting in my dads drive way it all looked pretty level, got a measurement and my rear is only 1/2 inch off now. My driver side leaf springs are not flat anymore. Could that have just been my shackle? I bought the allpro standard leaf springs but i didn't think putting 400lbs in the back would bottom them right out...
     
  20. Jan 7, 2021 at 6:32 AM
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    It looks like it a combination of things.... Yes, your shock is took a sh***... But i would recommend to dis assembly everything and double check the leaf, if leaf is ok. than that mean, you got some deflected leaf spring... call all pro and have them exchange it... even without the shock on, the leaf shouldn't bottom out like that....
     
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