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Canadian truck - US dealers won't do frame rust check?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by tbrady, Jan 2, 2021.

  1. Jan 3, 2021 at 10:06 AM
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    Or the opposite with US trucks up here in Canada..
     
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  2. Jan 3, 2021 at 10:54 AM
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    Well, I can't speak for all of WA. but it's kinda' like this... I'm not even gonna count Seattle or King County (Seattle) .. Because nobody there can drive in the snow anyway. I kid you not, they get an inch of snow over there and the whole place just literally shuts down.
    It's actually pretty funny watching the evening news and seeing all the Eco-box-hybrids sliding around and smashing into each other.
    Here, on the east side of the state ... Where we actually get REAL snow... It depends on where yer at. County by county.
    Some county's go heavy on the salt with some sand mixed in. Other's go heavy on the sand with a little bit of salt in it. Glad to say I'm in a 'mostly sand' county.
    City of Spokane uses some sort of chemical for 'pre' and 'after' treating. I have NO idea how caustic/bad these chemicals are, or if they are no prob at all. Zero idea. They seem to work well and I'm not too concerned as I don't go there very often. But they don't use sand/salt at all.
    Coeur d'Alene ID. ... Right next to Spokane has gotten on board with spraying 'Beet Juice' (I kid you not .. Juice made from beets) on the streets and for ... Don't ask me how someone ever thought of this... It works great for de-icing streets. Plus side, it's not caustic in anyway to rigs. Minus side ... It's not cheap.
    Since where I live it's heavy on the sand and light on the salt .. I just do what I've done for 25 years. (All my rigs) .. If, and I usually do, use only one rig for winter driving, I take it to the do-it-yourself car-wash and spray off the undercarriage every couple weeks the best as I can reach under there. So far, so good.
    I've got a 95' Dodge B2500 van that I've done this and so far, very few little 'rust pimples' on the frame. Not even anything close to being concerned about.
     
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  3. Jan 3, 2021 at 11:14 AM
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    Beet Juice, OK
    talk about stains
     
  4. Jan 3, 2021 at 11:50 AM
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    Stuff is actually whiteish-clear ...(Beets are white inside after you get the red skin off..)
    From what I've read is, the reason it's so expensive is .. It takes a shit-load of beets to get a bunch of 'juice' out of them.
    What I find really weird is .. How did anyone even think to think .. 'Hey ... Let's take some beet juice and pour it on ice and see what happens?' ... It had to be by pure accident I would think. There's not a single person I know that actually eats .. Beets (Ugh!) so maybe someone was throwing that stuff away .. Accidentally spilled some out the back door while throwing it away one day and noticed 'Hey.. Look at this! This crap is melting the ice on the back steps!'
    IDK ... LOL!!!
     
  5. Jan 3, 2021 at 3:26 PM
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    Interesting. I thought salt was like the last resort in WA/OR because the runoff is not good for freshwater ecology and it leeches metals out of the soil on its way to the water.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2021 at 3:29 PM
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    .. beets are not white. The red skin isn’t skin, and red beets have red juice.

    There are other colors of beets, though.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2021 at 12:55 PM
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    You may be right and I can only guess that maybe there's some counties here with very little 'water-shed' around them, and others, (Like here) that are surrounded by rivers, streams and lakes. I'd guess that the EPA has a big hand in saying what you can/can't do, and so far as OR. goes, IDK. Environmental rules can vary (Sometime wildly) from state to state.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM
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    Yeah, I think the EPA doesn't say much about this specifically and it's more of a state or local gov thing. Here in SE MI, the roads are so heavily salted that it's not surprising to see salt rocks still hanging around after winter has gone and MI is basically a continuous mosaic of watersheds. I really wish the states that needed to would enforce a law that requires winter tires when driving in hazardous conditions by issuing tickets to people that get in accidents when driving on "all seasons" or any other tire that isn't winter rated instead of just salting the winter into submission. The northern European countries require this, but then again they also require that you actually know how to drive before getting a license. Road salt is terrible for everything except improving safety when driving with poor choice of tires.
     
  9. Jan 4, 2021 at 4:14 PM
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    Not true. I owned a 2nd gen that was imported from the U.S. I had countless warranty and recall items taken care of by Canadian dealerships. One dealer gave me some B.S about how it won’t and will never be covered, called another couple dealerships and “Oh ya, not a problem we deal with U.S vehicles all the time” was the response.

    After a conversation with Toyota Canada the issue is not at the corporate level, it’s un or misinformed Service Advisors and dealer management. My suspicion is it’s likely the same issue with Canadian trucks in the U.S.
     
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  10. Jan 4, 2021 at 4:20 PM
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    It's probably dealership to dealership. Less hassle for them to tell you no and make you go somewhere else.
    Locally they took our Canadian 2nd gen truck in no problem, frame swap, and then took it as a trade on our 3rd gen.
    Neighbours USDM Tacoma were told to take it back to US for frame treatment, then wouldn't accept it as a trade in.. lol they took it to the Nissan dealer and traded it in on a Titan.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2021 at 8:56 PM
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    The frame inspection/treatment was one of the issues a Canadian dealer took care of no questions asked on my US truck. Service manager told me it isn’t any more work for them, Toyota Canada covers it like every other domestic vehicle. I asked why I had one dealership tell me it wasn’t covered, he laughed and said “I dunno, maybe they don’t like making money?”

    Although I ultimately ended up selling it privately, I had another dealer offer to take it in on trade without issue. Like I said it’s not a Toyota Canada thing, it seems there’s some ignorant Service Advisors, likely they’re just lazy and can’t be bothered to check on the answer to a question they don’t immediately know the answer to.
     
  12. Jan 20, 2021 at 8:41 AM
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    I received more info on this finally. No states farther west than MN can apply the CRC apparently. It's good to know that Montana and the Dakotas are warm weather states!

    The K0D includes a frame CRC application that can only be performed by cold climate dealers (it requires specialized equipment and training): District of Columbia (DC), CT, DE, IL, IN, KY, MA, MD, ME, MI, MN, NH, NJ, NY, OH, PA, RI, VA, VT, WI, and WV.

    From the K0D dealer letter:

    • If qualifying rust perforation is not found, and the vehicle is located in a Cold Climate State, the dealer will apply Corrosion Resistant Compound (CRC) and/or install frame plugs to key areas of the vehicle’s frame FREE OF CHARGE to the owner under Limited Service Campaign (LSC) K0D.
    • If qualifying rust perforation is not found, and the vehicle is not located in a Cold Climate State, no further action is required.
    • If significant rust perforation is found, the dealer will replace the vehicle’s frame FREE OF CHARGE to the owner under Customer Support Program ZKA if all conditions of the program are met.

    Long story short, CRC application can only be performed by dealers in Canada and “cold climate” dealers. The remainder of the frame inspection process can be performed at any dealer.


    So... now I just have to figure out how to get the truck from the CA border to a dealer. There's one only about 8 miles from the border if I can figure out how to get it there.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2021 at 8:52 AM
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  14. Jan 20, 2021 at 8:58 AM
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    It's not that simple. Everything has been switched from metric except for the AC Temp control which is still in celsius. There are probably 100+ posts on TW with folks trying to figure out how to change it with no luck.
     
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    Word is the settings are in the body control module. Changing that out will not be economically feasible.
     
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    Looked it up. They are using sugar beets which are white inside. Was surprised how much this is used
     
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    Show us where these climate control settings are!
     
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  19. Jan 21, 2021 at 1:31 PM
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    Where/how did you find this out? And I think you might be right! If I look up the part numbers for it there are ones marked as "Canada spec" and "Hawaii spec" etc.

    And yeah, we are doing a complete cleaning, ospho, paint, FF treatment on the truck. I mainly want to get the treatment done by the dealer for warranty purposes.
     
  20. Jan 21, 2021 at 7:26 PM
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    I read that on the forum. There was a thread about it awhile back. Even the dealer the guy went to couldnt figure it out. I use Farenheit even though I am in Canada. Fortunately my SR5 has the manual knobs and single zone climate control so I avoided being stuck with Celcius readouts. My only experience with a US vehicle in Canada is with Hyundai. I had a Sonata I bought new in Ohio before I moved to Canada. After exporting it here I just had to take it back to the US for warranty work. The Canadian dealers wouldn't honor warranty work on it.
     

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