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Trying to order a 2021 TRD Sport

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by qtownbullitt, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Jan 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM
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    shakerhood

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    Toyota used to call the Acces Cab a Extended Cab in the past so l assumed that's what the OP wants. However you would be correct if he is looking for a Double Cab Long Bed MT then he is SOL
     
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  2. Jan 11, 2021 at 7:26 PM
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    Historically, the Tacoma cab styles have been designated by letter:
    "A" cab = the regular (short) cab, no back seat.
    "B" cab = Xtracab (extended) with a cramped back seat
    "C" cab = same dimensions as "B" but with access doors for the back seat area
    "D" cab = double cab with a full back seat and 4 regular doors

    The 3rd generation has only the "C" and "D" cabs. In the 3rd generation most people would call the "D" the extended cab. Anyway the OP needs to clarify which cab he wants.
     
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  3. Jan 11, 2021 at 7:31 PM
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    Seems clear enough that OP mentioned long bed and MT. Since that's only possible in AC I am giving OP the benefit of the doubt that he means AC.
     
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  4. Jan 11, 2021 at 7:32 PM
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    Just came here to say that. I don't think Toyota offers a manual DCLB in any trim.
     
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    I just bought a TRD Sport, 6-speed manual, long bed last week ... salesman told me their whole inventory is decided by corporate and about the only thing they can change in the order from top ... is the color. The local dealer does have an extended cab long bed but it's automatic and white.
     
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    If they did, a lot of us would be in a mad frenzy to buy one :)
     
  7. Jan 11, 2021 at 7:35 PM
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    I think most people would refer to that as an extended cab in layman's terms. Not sure why Toyota has the funky naming, although they aren't alone.
     
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  8. Jan 11, 2021 at 7:49 PM
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    I can never wrap my head around or understand this “ordering a personalized” build. It seems you would have zero leverage with negotiating a price As well as an extended wait.

    In November 2018 I got my wife a 2019 Camry SXE. I did all the research On options etc. and the color she wanted. I went into my dealer that I have gotten cars from before with a spreadsheet and listed the car as I wished it to be optioned. I gave the salesman the spreadsheet and said this is what I am looking for. He said OK let me see what I can do. Two weeks later he called and said, “we have your car on our lot”. He told me they got it from a dealer one state over. I went down and the car it was exactly as I wanted it and we negotiated a price and she drove it home.

    Worked a similar process when I got my Tacoma the next year and got my truck about a week later. The only difference there is I asked for a TRD off-road or a TRD sport and listed a choice of three different colors. The black DCLB Sport is what I got.

    Perhaps somebody can educate me on the benefits both financially and otherwise of doing this personalized order deal.
     
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  9. Jan 11, 2021 at 8:26 PM
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    I can't think of any financial benefit.

    For MT, which is already rare, if you want a specific color and specific options, it might be the difference between getting something you want and something which isn't really what you want.

    For TRD Pro, at that price level, where there's likely not much room for negotiation depending on the model year and overall supply/demand, it makes even more sense because who wants to pay $50k+ for a color they don't really like?

    For an AT Tacoma TRD Sport or OffRoad, I 100% agree that there's zero point to trying to present the spec to a Toyota dealer, you are just giving away leverage. It might take a little bit of work to find DCLB 4x4 in the color you want but it's entirely doable.

    If you haven't been in the market for an MT lately, perhaps you're not fully aware of just how tricky they are to find.
     
  10. Jan 11, 2021 at 8:58 PM
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    I think there is still confusion over “allocation” and “personal build.” My dealer had a premium package TRD OR 6MT in Silver (I think) ALREADY ALLOCATED and scheduled to be built. He intercepted it for me and requested Barcelona Red Metallic and a Tonneau and LED lights. Did that make it a personal build? No, it was an intercepted allocation with the basic drivetrain that was tweaked for me. I still don’t see where you can just order something from the ground up. It has to already be allocated with the basics of what is wanted (drivetrain) and go from there. Otherwise, is one dealer looking for a trade all over the dealer network from another.
     
  11. Jan 11, 2021 at 10:39 PM
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    Only aesthetic mods so far Leer 180 cap & Clazzio covers on order.
    Agree that it makes the financial negotiations more difficult. BUT, if you know how the dealers pad their profit margin and negotiate that crap out, and don't let them fool with the ADM (additional dealer mark-up), as well as having some idea of what the BS invoice price and holdback is, you can do okay. Not great, but okay and still below MSRP. The biggest plus: You get what you want and no more, no less.

    Male cow excrement! The TRD OR AC that I got was outside of the dealer's allocation and configured to my spec. In fact, since it wasn't part of their allocation it actually helped the dealer's bottom line from Toyota Corporate. That is partly why it took 6 months to get to the dealer (the other part was the change in model year and COVID's effect on the supply chain).
     
  12. Jan 12, 2021 at 8:05 AM
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    Well, yes. When I went to the dealer with my requirements, it was obviously understood that the price would be MSRP and there would be a wait. The only things that mitigated the price were the $1,000 Toyota rebate and the fact that the factory added LED headlights (which the dealer threw in for free, since I hadn't ordered them).
    I tend to keep my vehicles forever -- that is, until they completely fall apart. (I'm still driving my 2000 Ford Ranger.) Besides that, I'm 75 years old and this Tacoma is probably the last vehicle I will ever buy. That's why I was willing to hold out for it being exactly what I wanted. The financial hit is like nothing, when amortized over 15 or 20 years.
     
  13. Jan 12, 2021 at 8:53 AM
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    I ran into a friend yesterday that had a 2015 silverado black chevy that wasn't entirely happy with it for years...he just took ownership of a new 2021 midnight black trd access cab. Apparently he tried to get the truck in quicksand, but none were being made available in an access cab trim for sometime . Said he could of got all the double door cabs in the color he wanted....so he settled on metallic midnight black with a higher technology package. At any rate so far he's liking the downsizing...says its a dream to park this truck in town.
     
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    I ordered a 2021 trd sport access cab with tech package and army green on October 26, 2020. Here we are at almost 80 days later and today I got a call from the dealership that they finally have a manufacture date for this truck and everything is gonna be cool except they changed it to Barcelona Red.

    I knew the whole "special order during a pandemic" was gonna be a hassle, but come on. Salesman told me delivery in 8 weeks. No problem. Sign here he said.

    Unfortunately I just cannot abide by candy cane lipstick candy apple red. I want green and if I'm spending 40 big ones I want the color I want.

    End rant.
     
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    One thing I don't quite get about Toyota. What if they just had a special order program via a corporate dealership entity at MSRP, no price negotiation, no discounts, no incentives, nothing but the exact truck you want at the price they spec.

    I bet they'd sell a lot of trucks if you could just order online, punch in a nonrefundable deposit, and wait for your turn in the queue. People who don't want to go to a dealer, people who want a very specific truck, really want a Pro, etc.

    They could even do the old school VW model of pick it up from SD or LA after transport across the border from the Mexico plant and finishing all the paperwork.

    Seems like a total no brainer to me but not the Toyota style. I don't think it'd even negatively impact any existing Toyota dealerships unless they are routinely selling above MSRP?
     
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    Yeah Quicksand got cancelled as a Tacoma color.
     
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    Something doesn’t seem quite right about this. When my dealer located the truck I wanted, it was in the wrong color and they just put in a change order for me to change the color to (ironically) Barcelona Red Metallic. They were able to change the color before it was built and here you had the color changed on you without requesting it. I hope that your vehicle is not allocated to another dealer who put in the change.
     
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    Only aesthetic mods so far Leer 180 cap & Clazzio covers on order.
    A sales person will almost always say "... delivery in 8 weeks. No problem. Sign here ..."
    Then it's up to the sales manager to attempt to modify a vehicle in their allocation OR negotiate with another dealer whose allocation is closer to what you want.
    If they can come close, it's then 'dumped' on the poor sales person to tell you what you're going to get.
    In addition, ToyotaUSA seems to want to dictate what configurations are appropriate (read: sells best) for your region.
    It's a horrible process that's not limited to Toyota alone.
    Maybe the factory can't get army green paint at the time this truck starts down the assembly line ....
    As far as the time goes, I waited 6 months & 6 days to get exactly what I wanted, so 80 days is not so bad...as long as it's what you ordered.
    I blame the 'Build Your Own' feature on ToyotaUSA's web site for much of the angst among customers. In my dealings with corporate, my position was simple: If I can build it online, then you guys must be able to assemble it in the factory. Period. If not, I don't buy Toyota.
     
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    Agreed!


    Yup. Toyota won't let me buy a SR5 DCLB 4x4 in my region. They will happily sell me more expensive Sport or Offroad in that trim. 7570 is "locked out" in my region, along with SRv6 DCSB. I guess toyota thinks there are no poor folks like us here who use the truck on our farms, and we don't need the mall crawler hipster trucks and overpay.

    I had to 6 states away to get my 21. My 18 (gardener special $22,500) they deemed appropriate for my region so 3 years ago I got that locally.

    That said, my 21 is not $11,700 better than my 18, but I had to spend it the way Toyota does it.

    Oh well. We (consumers) are the suckers.
     
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    Interesting on that SR5 DCLB 4x4 problem. That seems like a reasonably desirable configuration. My wife's test drive of the 2wd V6 SR5 DCLB opened the door for me to proceed, she much preferred DC and V6, though she was not at all happy about MT. I suspect Toyota assumes anyone who doesn't want the high trim doesn't want 4x4 which is rather arrogant.
    Ironically, with MT, they require 4x4 now, so it's gone from a budget option to a premium option somehow. Which is fine given the potential for 4x4 fun with MT but I would personally have been quite well served with an MT I4 2WD truck. A modern day beater if you will. That was all I really wanted, something in the 20-30k price range new like my 2002 RCLB V8 Tundra.

    I'm curious what the gardeners/landscapers/laborers will be driving in 20 years. Probably the same 22r's they drive now given lack of low priced Tacomas being sold today.
     
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