1st oil change?

Nope. Just the horrible ones that can't be fired because of tenure. Unions are fine except for that.

 

4500 miles on mine and had 3 filter and oil changes. 2019 I own. Just change it when you want and get peace of mine.

 

Lol great post! I am terrified of doctors. Despise lawyers. I am a fan of anyone who has an honorable profession where they can do something that makes a difference in people's lives.
As far as OCI, there have been a lot of great changes over the past 30 years that allows us to use a 0W20 synthetic. Mainly metallurgy and better additive packages for oils.
The proof is in the thousands of Blackstone lab results of oil analysis. They don't lie.

Oh, I have lost a lot of sleep over the years worried about overlooking something that could hurt someone. Lots of peer reviews. Lots.

 

It just went metal on metal and they kept cruising it. I bet what happened was it stopped making noise after the caliper blew out because it wouldn’t produce enough pressure to even grind any more. Pretty much all German cars use high carbon content rotors with semi metallic pads. They work great but don’t last long and they also create lots of dust. I bet the relatively soft brake rotor material was nothing in comparison to the metal backing of the brake pad. It might be hard to see but a lot of the metal backing from the pad was still intact. It literally wore through half the rotor.

 

1st world BS mentality...”waste not want not” could serve a lot of folk well

 

Modern oils and their additives have gotten so good engines almost don’t wear out. Also, the detergents and other conditioners work so well that oil almost looks black just after 500 miles. I see a lot of properly maintained cars and a lot of poorly maintained cars and generally, GENERALLY, they both look about the same as far as how clean the internals look. You get a 100k mile car and pull a valve cover and the metal where the camshaft lobes are match the color of the rough cast parts. Oils are really remarkable for keeping things clean. The two important things that people forget, and frankly this is just from experience and not some proven science I’ve studied, is that the combustion byproducts and PCV system is what causes other issues. I can’t imagine that stuff is good for plastic timing chain sliders, variable valve timing actuators, plastic and rubber air oil separator components or even oil seals. Again, my experience is that people who use lesser quality, more broad based oils, tend to have a higher failure rate of those components. It’s not really engines wearing out these days, it’s all the other problems. Hence my eating healthy analogy, it doesn’t solve everything, just sort of helps.

 

$12.5 for 5 quarts, but ya, real cheap for good oil.

 

Think of all the Toyotas roaming the deserts of the Sahara and other parts of Africa. The only time they ADD oil is when the low level idiot light comes on. Maybe.

 

It has not, but the ignore button has.

 

I don’t have the balls to treat my truck like that but as luck would have it those guys won’t have a single problem. lol

 

I believe that all professions like most folk are basically good, but money corrupts and is at the root of all evil.
I don’t think we can live without farming though.

I do concur with the new materials and oils, in fact, once upon a time new vehicle warranty were an unheard of 12k/1yr or whichever came first. Now look at us, so confident some dealers offer life time warranties at their own risk.

I concur Blackstone lab results of oil analysis don’t lie, the oil is still good but its the combustion contaminants and acids that cling to the material surfaces inside the engine and accumulate at the same rate as before that could eventually build up to unacceptable level that can harm that maybe of concern. Yes there have been many changes and no doubt engines last longer than ever and are way more reliable than yesteryear.
I also get that they were cheaper too but not on a scale of advancement, materials and efficiency. Once you add those and all the other refinements and comforts (entune,A/C power everything) they may even be cheaper?

And we all loose sleep over our chose trade or profession, bankers, CEOs, technicians can forget to fasten vehicle components properly putting lives at risk, electricians, HVAC personnel, battalion commanders, politicians but doctors and medical personnel probably make the most mistakes and get paid the most lol!

So don’t loose too much sleep my friend, to err is only human

Cheers!

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I found a picture of a 2.0T I was doing a cam cradle re seal on. You can see the little puddles of black engine oil but notice how clean everything is. That’s how engines look at 100k miles these days. They just have other issues unfortunately...

 

^ An Audie at that^

 

I see the similar stuff when checking the valves on my bike every 6k.

Modern engines and fluids are pretty damn amazing.

 

Don’t get me started on Audis...

I bought a brand new dual sport in 2013, oil intervals were every 7,500. I changed the oil and filter every 2k, I ended up getting a bad crank bearing by 15k miles. I rebuilt the entire engine and added a big bore kit, but hey, can’t prevent everything.

 

I dont understand your comment.

 

I see, thanks for the explanation. I have never seen a rotor/disc like that.

 

The oil industry is the one who came up with the 3k interval. And it blew wide open in the 70s with the advent of quick lube shops. It was simple. Sell more oil.....make more money.

To this day....there are people who've spent there whole lives listening to their fathers and grandfathers promoting it because that's what they had implanted in their brains 50...60 years ago by a "well oiled" marketing machine.

And yes....oil and engine tech are much better than even just a couple of decades ago.

 

Engine sludge is not dead still around, it doesn't care what oil you use, it's a byproduct of internal combustion



be afraid, be very afraid

 

Humans doing human shit. Literally makes no sense. But that's okay. Have a good day!