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Are my alignment specs really bad?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by NorCalNinja, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:04 AM
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    NorCalNinja

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    I have a 2018 Tacoma dcsb 4x4, I recently installed Bilstein 6112, 5160 and All pro AAL. Its currently sitting high at 3" up front and 2" in the rear. I understand the caster is bad without aftermarket UCAs but it looks like Firestone did not touch camber or caster at all because it's in spec. Am I going to have issues with my new tires with that camber?

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  2. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM
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    Yes you will wear tires. Camber should be 0.0 - 0.2 caster 3.0 - 4.0. UCA’s will help
     
  3. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM
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    Thanks, I'm hoping they can max out the caster on stock UCAs but I knew that issue coming in but the camber is something that worries me.
     
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  4. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:26 AM
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    No problem bro. Good luck :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:42 AM
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    Just called Firestone, they stated they can fix the camber but does not have the tools to adjust caster. Does that sound strange for a alignment shop to not mess with caster? I'm new to this wheel alignment stuff.
     
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  6. Jan 19, 2021 at 11:48 AM
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    Sounds like they don’t want to spend time on it. UCA’s as you know will definitely help that. Problem is once lifted factory specs are a waste. Can you save up for UCA’s?
     
  7. Jan 19, 2021 at 12:14 PM
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    My issue is if I get expensive aftermarket UCAs and they still dont touch it lol. I have a lifetime wheel alignment but it doesn't help if they don't want to put it into the specs I want.
     
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  8. Jan 19, 2021 at 12:38 PM
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    And they likely won't touch it. You will need to find a dedicated off road shop and pony up for the custom alignment.
     
  9. Jan 19, 2021 at 12:43 PM
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    Another location is atleast willing to take a look at it rather than telling me they don't have the tools. Maybe I'll try that before going to a whole different shop.
     
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  10. Jan 19, 2021 at 1:01 PM
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    Good luck bro. Keep me posted
     
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    It's the same tools...never go back there.
     
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    Area manager gave me a call and said I can be in on their alignment process and if I don't like the specs after adjustments I can get a refund.
     
  13. Jan 19, 2021 at 2:06 PM
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    Here are my numbers
     
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  14. Jan 19, 2021 at 5:08 PM
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    Thank you so much for the help today, I'll use your photo as a reference to show them if they can get my alignment close to your specs.
     
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  15. Jan 19, 2021 at 5:18 PM
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    if you lift it over 2-2.5 inches you usually need new adjustable uppers to get the alignment right
     
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    Anytime. Just remember these numbers are with SPC upper control arms. Also I’m right at 2” of lift and needed them. It’s a good investment for sure.
    Good Luck OP
     
  17. Jan 19, 2021 at 5:52 PM
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    Just get the refund and move on. They are truly idiots. Don’t have the tools. The fact they said that shows how incompetent they are.
     
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  18. Jan 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM
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    Firestone is hit or miss with getting alignments outside of factory spec and sometimes it's just a shitty tech. With two firestone's I've used for alignment, I've asked them straight up if they would align with lift, aftermarket stuff, etc and they both had no issues with the numbers I gave them. The one I use now in metro Detroit is great. The guy even put a wrench on all the suspension bolts/fasteners that I had out to make sure they were tq to spec. That's the kind of service and responsible tech that keeps me coming back.
     
  19. Jan 19, 2021 at 6:43 PM
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    You will be alot better with Aftermarket UCA's, here's mine that was just done, 2.75" front and 2" rear lift icon UCA's. And this was just a regular tire place that did minePXL_20210115_185348361.jpg
     
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    I figure that was the case, I honestly didn't know they were just going to touch only toe.
     

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