Minor annoyances with Toyota tech (compared to wife's Honda)

That's one way to look at it. Another is being tired of hearing every generation shit on the one after them for how easy they have everything.

 

...and this is why.


The Silent Generation Is Hardworking

The silent generation brought the strong work ethic of their parents into the factories of industrialized society. They grew up during lean times, including the Great Depression and World War II. They consider work a privilege and it shows—they're considered the wealthiest generation.

Traditionalists believe that you earn your own way through hard work. Long, grueling hours in their prime enabled them to get ahead in their legal careers, and they think others should do the same. This generation believes that promotions and advancement should be the result of tenure and proven productivity. They distrust flash-in-the-pan successes.

They Have Willpower

Adversity doesn't daunt the silent generation. They tend to be dogged and determined, willing to go the distance even if they have to dig deep for the strength to do so. Again, they survived the Great Depression.

Many of them had to toughen up and bear down to earn a living in those days to simply survive. They were often forced to take jobs that didn't necessarily appeal to them. They took what work was available...if and when it was available, and they were grateful for it. You won't find a traditionalist stomping off in a huff and quitting to grab the next available job that comes along.

Traditionalists Are Loyal Employees

Traditionalists are civic-minded and loyal to their country and to their employers. In fact, they still register as the largest voting population in the U.S.

Unlike Generation Y and Generation X workers, many traditionalists have stayed with the same employer throughout their entire working lives. They're less likely to change jobs to advance their careers than younger generations, but they expect the same loyalty in return.

They Respect Authority

Raised in a paternalistic environment, the silent generation was taught to respect authority. Conformity and conservatism are prized. They tend to be good team players. They generally don’t ruffle feathers or initiate conflict in the workplace, and they like to feel needed.

Waste Not, Want Not

Traditionalists tend to be thrifty. These are not folks who are going to trade their cars in every few years. They'll diligently maintain what they own to extend the property's lifespan. Of course, this can become annoying in the workforce, particularly for Millennials who aren't inclined to dry out a sheet of paper towel for reuse later.

The Silent Generation Can Be Tech-Challenged

Don't expect your silent generation employee to be a whiz at operating his new smartphone. Of all the generations active in today's workplaces, traditionalists are the slowest to change their work habits and to adapt to new, more efficient ways of doing things. This is particularly the case when those efficient ways involve technology.

Traditionalists might struggle to learn new technology as it evolves and changes the practice of law, and they might try your younger staff's patience with the need for ongoing instruction in this area.

The flip side is that they often have great one-on-one interpersonal skills because they're more accustomed to dealing with people eye-to-eye. They've honed their abilities to use this to their advantages.

They're Traditional

Traditionalists value old-time morals, safety, security, and consistency. They have more respect for brick-and-mortar educational institutions and traditional lecture formats than online, web-based education and training. This generation favors conventional business models in the legal workplace and a top-down chain of command. Work ethic and reliability are important to them.



Millennials,

or members of Generation Y (also known as Gen Y) were born between 1982 and 2000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 83.1 million millennials in the U.S., and the Pew Research Center found that millennials surpassed baby boomers (boomers) to become the largest living generation in the United States in 2016.

Millennials are separated from the older generation before them (Generation X) and the generation that followed them (Generation Z).

Millennial Characteristics

As expected by their birth years, the Millennial generation makes up the fastest growing segment of the workforce. As companies compete for available talent, employers simply cannot ignore the needs, desires, and attitudes of this vast generation. As with each generation that preceded it, Millennials have come to be defined by a set of characteristics formed mainly by the world and culture they grew up in. Here are a few of their common characteristics.

Millennials are Tech-Savvy

Generation Y grew up with technology, and they rely on it to perform their jobs better. Armed with smartphones, laptops, and other gadgets, this generation is plugged in 24/7. They like to communicate through email, text messaging, and whatever new social media platform (i.e., Twitter, Instagram) friends and colleagues are using. This is a generation that can't even imagine a world without the internet or cell phones.

Millennials Are Family-Centric

The fast-track lifestyle has lost much of its appeal for millennials. The members of this generation are willing to trade high pay for fewer billable hours, flexible schedules, and a better work/life balance. Although older generations may view this attitude as narcissistic or see it as a lack of commitment, discipline, and drive, Millennials have a different idea of workplace expectations. Millennials usually prioritize family over work, and even those who aren't married with children feel the need to be a part of a family and spend time with nieces, nephews, and siblings.

Millennials Are Achievement-Oriented

Nurtured and pampered by parents who didn't want to make the mistakes of the previous generation, millennials are confident, ambitious, and achievement-oriented. They also have high expectations of their employers, tend to seek new challenges at work, and aren't afraid to question authority. Generation Y wants meaningful work and a solid learning curve.

Millennials are Team-Oriented

While growing up, most Millennial boys and girls participated in team sports, playgroups, and other group activities, whether it was soccer or ballet. They value teamwork and seek the input and affirmation of others. Millennials are the true no-person-left-behind generation, loyal and committed. They want to be included and involved.

Generation Y Craves Attention

Generation Y craves feedback and guidance. They appreciate being kept in the loop and often need frequent praise and reassurance. Millennials may benefit greatly from mentors who can help guide and develop their talents. This is where the boomers come in handy because (though mostly retired), they have something to offer and see mentoring millennials is one way they can continue to contribute to the workforce.

Generation Y Is Prone to Job-Hopping

A potential downside of Generation Y workers is that they're always looking for something new and better. It's not uncommon for a millennial to stay with a firm for only two or three years before moving on to a position they think is better. The resumes you receive from millennial job seekers will undoubtedly demonstrate this peppered job history.

Don’t discount members of this generation just because they’ve worked for several firms—these young employees bring with them a variety of experiences. Unlike previous generations, they do not take a job and then hold onto it for as long as humanly possible. Instead, they go out and create a new app or fund a trendy start-up.

The Bottom Line About Millennials

Generation Y possesses many characteristics that are unique in comparison to past generations. They tend to be excited about their jobs, and they will work hard and efficiently. They might approach their superiors as equals more so than previous generations, but companies can take steps to draw a line between supervisor and friend. When that line is drawn, millennials will not only work tirelessly for you, but they will show you the respect due to a supervisor with many years experience.

 

Did you copy and paste cultural generation information in a thread talking about Toyota’s?

Silly 3rd gen section

 

appears so

lets get back to complaining about ridgelines being better

 

Ridgelines are better than Tacomas because cruise control is a button and not an extra stick behind the steering wheel.

I hate the cruise control stick with a passion.

Also, I'm gonna make a guess and say that the Ridgeline forums would've cost me way less money than tacomaworld too.

 

I do think the remote start can be better by just a software update. I do not like the fact that engine shut off if you open the door.
To OP, you don't have to pay subscription if you don't need the phone app to start the car, my wife's Sienna has a remote start key fob, my 2021 factory key fob can start the engine.

Here in MN, we remote start to warm up the car, and the first thing we do usually is open the door and get the snow brush, but the engine shut off and we have to re-start again, this makes remote start pointless.

 

I was aiming to buy a ridgeline since all I wanted was a Honda Element but with a pickup bed but then I wanted real 4x4 and a tacoma happened. not a 3rd gen but still no complaints from me. Some people just expect S class features in a C class car

 

I get what you're saying but I think you're missing the point of my rant. The Tacoma and CR-V clearly have different reasons for existence. Much like a house and an apartment serve different needs and you should live in the one that fits yours. But if a house and apartment both have lets say air conditioning, and in the house its auto climate control and in the apartment you have to go reset the thermostat every 5 minutes, you can still bitch about wishing it was auto control as well just like the house.

 

Are you sure? I thought I read the fob functionality dies with the expiration of the subscription as well

 

I was under the impression that the subscription fee was only linked to the cell phone start.

 

Same concept for sure so now you are pulling people who want homes and another group of people who want apartments.
Your problem is you fall into a 3rd group that wants a combination of the two. Unfortunately your group is small compared to the other two groups so your wants will not be applied.
When I had my Tacomas my needs changed over time. Instead of "ranting" on a forum about what I wished Tacoma had (towing and hauling capacity) I simply sold the Tacoma and got a Tundra.
My Grandpa taught me 50 years ago that "An idea without a plan is just a wish." Personally I wish for nothing. If I want something, I figure out if it's possible, if it is I develop a plan to get it. But that's just me.

 

The technologies you referenced—Honda Sensing and Toyota Safety Sense are similar, but have slight differences in execution and availability. Not only do these technologies differ among manufacturers, they can differ within a manufacturer’s given lineup of vehicles.

For example, Toyota Safety Sense has tiers. Some of the attributes you highlighted on the CR-V Touring are available with Toyota Safety Sense, but not all tiers of Toyota Safety Sense. The Toyota Safety Sense package on my wife’s Toyota Camry XSE had a much clearer backup camera, allowed the Camry to come to a complete stop and resume, and was equipped with steering assist. Sure, a Camry and Tacoma are worlds apart and that’s exactly the case with a CR-V and Tacoma.

 

Nope. The remote start runs through the DCM on the mid cycle refresh trucks (MY19+).
That dude is gonna get a surprise when all of a sudden his remote start isn’t working when his trial is up and he doesn’t wanna pay for the privilege.

 

Wow, that's a load of garbage. Kinda glad my truck didn't come with one in that case. I ended up putting an N2 remote starter but at least I know it'll work if I don't pay for the cell phone app.

 

Didn't realize that. In that case this thread should have been "it would be cool if you could option out the higher tier safety sense on the Tacoma." Would have saved a lot of people bickering about being old or being a bro or whatever

 

Don’t worry. It took me a while to figure out why my wife’s Camry was operating more efficiently than my Tacoma. For what it’s worth, I think Toyota could streamline its safety package.

The following link provides an overview of the Toyota Safety Sense packages:

https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense

 

Well stated. Thank you.

 

Are you out cranking the engine by hand? What's the difference between pushing the button to restart the engine, vs. pushing the button to confirm the fob? It's the exact same amount of work.

 

Uh, someone could steal it? Has anyone asked Toyota why it does shut off?

 

Ah the my generation is better than your generation, sorry that's bullshit. If it's human, it's entitled and full of shit.