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Rear sliding out issue...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by iJDub, Jan 23, 2021.

  1. Jan 23, 2021 at 1:02 AM
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    iJDub

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    So as soon as it rains even a little, everywhere I drive my rear is sliding around. I have aftermarket leafs and rear shocks and steel bumpers so my rear being light and stiff is a problem. Reasonable weight hasn't fixed it and I'm not trying to throw 1000 lbs in the bed.

    Most of the time it's manageable, however I don't want something to happen in an emergency situation.

    What are some fixes? Would driving in 4WD help?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jan 23, 2021 at 1:04 AM
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    Island Cruiser

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    What tires are you using and how is its tread life?
     
  3. Jan 23, 2021 at 1:16 AM
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    Don't use 4wd in the rain!

    Slip depends on your tires. Keep your foot off the throttle when turning. That's really it.
     
  4. Jan 23, 2021 at 1:25 AM
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    I have some Cooper ATPs about half way through it's life. Even coming out of a parking lot (where I have to turn and throttle at the same time) I slide my rear - scare the crap out of people in the other lane coming my direction. Also some freeway off ramps that do the 360, I have to be pretty careful not to brake suddenly...but sometimes I do because of cars in front driving like idiots. I'm pretty mindful and can correct it. I'm just concerned if I'm driving on the freeway at freeway speeds and something happens (like to avoid something in the road) and I lose control and slam into another car or something. I can't keep avoiding the rain lmao.
     
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  5. Jan 23, 2021 at 1:55 AM
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    Island Cruiser

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    Lol yeah can’t control Mother Nature. But like the other member said, don’t use 4WD, to add: particularly on pavement. My only next guess would be your tire pressure :notsure:
     
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  6. Jan 23, 2021 at 2:01 AM
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    How old are your tires? There should be a date on the sidewall saying X week of X year.

    determine-age-of-tires-2.jpg
     
  7. Jan 23, 2021 at 2:10 AM
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    Put some weight in the bed directly over the axel. Then as has been said keep your foot out if it.

    Also, start rolling before you turn the steering wheel. The further you turn the wheel when stopped the greater the rolling resistance and tendency to fishtail.
     
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  8. Jan 23, 2021 at 4:53 AM
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    My first guess would be worn or old rear tires. I read somewhere about how to improve neutral steering. This isn’t it but it was something like to decrease oversteer, decrease rear tire pressure, to decrease understeer, decrease front tire pressure, or increase, I don’t remember. Another question is what your setup is? A big heavy aftermarket front bumper with a big heavy winch? Power adders like nos, turbo or sc? 4cyl or 6? Mine doesn’t have vsc so I don’t know much about it. Maybe yours does and it’s malfunctioning. I have a xrunner with good fairly new tires I push pretty hard but I haven’t done an intentional drifting 4 wheel slide into a turn yet. I’ve only kicked the rear out unintentionally once, raining, in a tight traffic circle, too much throttle.
     
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  9. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:01 AM
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    Do you have a locking rear end? If it is locked ( intentionally or unintentionally) it will cause this exact problem. Just my opinion.
     
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  10. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:39 AM
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    I have MTs (horrible wet traction) and I have to try to get the rear end to slide...

    I mean this in the nicest way possible; maybe hit the gas a little more gradually.
     
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  11. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:39 AM
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    That’s a good point.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:42 AM
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    I once bought some used wheels from Craigslist and the tires that were on them were 6 years old and cracking. I used them while waiting for new tires to be delivered and driving in the rain was like driving on ice!
     
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  13. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:46 AM
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    A little less of the skinny pedal and don't turn the wheel so sharp. Sounds like driver error to me.
     
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    Tires!!! Start with tires designed wet conditions. Put some weight in the back of your truck.
    I’m going to assume the the primary cause is your driving habits. I’ve been driving various pickup trucks for a long long time and almost never experienced the rear of the truck sliding out in wet conditions. Yes it happens occasionally but usually because I’m going too fast and/or turning too sharp or braking. So get some better tires, put weight in the back of your truck, slow down and drive less aggressively in wet conditions.
     
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  15. Jan 23, 2021 at 12:55 PM
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    Mine only gets sideways if I want it to.....sometimes.....95% of the time. One wheel peel sucks. So if your an older model with mechanical LSD I’d love to swap you and solve your issue
     
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    Learn how to handle a pickup.
    Easy on the gogo pedal on sharp turns.

    Learn how to handle 4WD.
    Easy on the gogo pedal.
    Unlock the diff.

    TIRES!
    Learn how to read a tire sidewall.
    DOT date code. Anything older than 0316 is due for possible replacement.
    Traction code on the sidewall indicate WET traction. AA, A, B, C. AA is best. Steer clear of C ratings.

    All pickups are light in the rear. All have a tendency to slide on sharp corners with a heavy right foot.
     
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    I don’t have that problem with my Michelin’s. Go figure.
     
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    I second old tires. Twice, I have had tires with good tread that got old. Absolutely no traction on wet roads.
     
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    JEEPNIK

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    Okay, I think too many have been watching too many mattress commercials. You know the one where they tell you if it’s over so many years it’s time to replace it.

    Tires don’t magically expire after a certain time. Use, where, storage, exposure to the elements and many ither factors come into play.

    These types of blanket time frame statements are aimed at the weak minded for the sole purpose of stimulating sales.
     
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    Not true.

    Rubber ages. It will lose the ability to flex and grip the road. Tire manufacturers have studied tire aging. The 5 year is a guideline, just like your oil change interval.

    Although, my truck isn't depending on the engine oil to hold traction on the road.
     

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