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Preparing , preparing , you're always preparing . OZ-T's "Just build the damn shop already build ".

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by OZ-T, May 16, 2020.

  1. Jan 22, 2021 at 9:53 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T [OP] I hate my neighbour

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    Mostly because my insulation contractor will not use Rockwool and I do understand why , fibreglass batts have a "grain" , so you can easily split batts by hand to go in front and behind wires and pipes . With Rockwool there is no grain , you need to saw the batts to go around obstacles like wires and pipes and the Rockwool tends to kinda come off in chunks and crumbs around any cut . So for him its a more efficient and faster install with fibreglass .

    The other consideration is the mineral wool is considerably more expensive than his cost for fibreglass batts .

    These fibreglass batts are made from 70% recycled glass .

    The 6" Rockwool batts are R-22 whereas these 6" fibreglass batts are R-20 , however you can also get them in R-22 and R-24 .

    Because I am adding the R-8 Rockwool Comfortboard on the exterior I am happy to stick with the less expensive R-20 batts as I will end up at R-28 for my assembly and an effective R value for the wall of R-22 with my insulation choices .

    FYI , the Rockwool Comfortboard80 mineral wool sheets I'm using for the exterior insulation are compressed far more densely than the Rockwool batts so chunking and crumbing from cuts does not really happen
     
  2. Jan 22, 2021 at 10:44 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    You must not know who you speak of.

    There's karma alright, but not the good kind, not for OZ.
     
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  3. Jan 23, 2021 at 6:00 PM
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    OZ-T [OP] I hate my neighbour

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    Today I started prepping to install the 2" Rockwool Comfortboard80 mineral wool exterior insulation sheets .

    When I laid out the foundation I cast a 1 1/2" tall by 1" deep ledge into the concrete wall with the top of ledge at underside of bottom wall plate / wall sheathing and the back of the ledge flush to exterior plane of plywood .





    This ledge will help to support a 2" pressure treated ground that caps the underside of the Comfortboard as well as give the Comfortboard a spot to rest on . Additionally this bottom ground will allow me to attach my bottom rainscreen drain and siding blocking (more on that later)


    To install the bottom ground , first I needed to fit them as they needed to be at 2" from exterior of plywood plane but the concrete wall was in and out of that plane by as much as about 3/16" , which is not much but I didn't want to establish a bug highway back there

    Rectangular grounds ripped and fitted in place




    After fitting all the grounds , I ripped them all so there is s 5 degree slope on top , a drip edge underneath to break any capillary action from drawing water back underneath the siding towards the wall , and wrapped the tops and exterior face with Vycor Deck Protector



    I'll install these tomorrow or Monday , tape the bottom seam of the housewrap to the bottom ground and then I will be ready to start installing the Comfortboard
     
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  4. Jan 23, 2021 at 6:36 PM
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  5. Jan 23, 2021 at 6:42 PM
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  6. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:27 PM
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    OZ-T [OP] I hate my neighbour

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    you've got lots of time to figure that out lol
     
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  7. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:29 PM
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    So , couple things ~

    Passed Insulation inspection this morning

    Drywall being delivered Friday

    I'm working on a few pre-drywall details and also have prepped everything to be ready to install exterior insulation

    I've also decided to make 2 fairly major changes . I'm eliminating the interior 1/2" plywood layer behind the drywall , and am not going to grind and polish the concrete slab . Both decisions are budget based and I realized that the $1400 of plywood for the interior was kind of redundant in many areas as it would be behind cabinetry or my lumber racking system .

    Not grinding the slab was a harder decision to make because I really wanted to have the coolest shop floor on the block but that saves me a couple thousand dollars plus and again , a lot of the floor will be covered by benches and built ins

    unsub as needed , I won't blame you
     
  8. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:38 PM
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    Just kidding, money talks and I don't blame your decision to slash those line items out. Could you butt 1/2" drywall to 1/2" ply in the areas where you want to have all the extra strength without all the extra cost? And would the cost of an epoxy floor be less than the cost of grinding/polishing or would that be about the same?

    -J
     
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  9. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:48 PM
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    OZ-T [OP] I hate my neighbour

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    I added some blocking in places before the insulation was installed where I knew I was going to be mounting some stuff , want the interior finish to be all drywall for aesthetics . Haven't priced an epoxy floor , the original finish on the concrete slab was pretty good , think I'm just going to clean if and re-seal it after drywall and put all the saved dough towards the plywood for my interior cabinetry and maybe the dust collection ductwork
     
  10. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:51 PM
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    What's the plan for the floor? Leave it raw?

    A diy grinding job isn't the worst experience, most certainly not fun, but can be worth it vs sweeping a brushed floor.
     
  11. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:55 PM
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    The original finish on concrete slab was hard , smooth power troweled , it sweeps up pretty easily
     
  12. Jan 26, 2021 at 7:01 PM
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    Please don't do an epoxy floor.
    I've been a maintenance guy in the pharmaceutical world for a long time, where almost all floors are epoxy and I've never seen one last, even with very reputable installers. Stay away, stay away, stay away.........(scary noises)
     
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  13. Jan 26, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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    OZ-T [OP] I hate my neighbour

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    Just sticking with the slab I have , no epoxy
     
  14. Jan 26, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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    My work here is done. :thumbsup:
     
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  15. Jan 28, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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    Finished my air sealing additions (red tape is insulator , blue tape is me) , papered floor and dunged out my shit ready for drywall delivery tomorrow

     
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    this a shop or a house?

    those Red squares outlets?
     
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  17. Jan 28, 2021 at 7:55 PM
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    my shop

    the house thread is ~

    Preparing , preparing , you're always preparing . OZ-T's "Just build the damn house already build ".

     
  18. Jan 28, 2021 at 7:56 PM
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    The red squares are vapour barrier receptacle boxes the insulator has taped to the vapour barrier with red vapour barrier tape
     
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    Well shit, I didn’t know that thread existed. Now I have to find it and there goes hours of my free time.
     
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