Will we see an Electric Tacoma?

I cannot wait for a full EV... (despite the fact that it implies giving up manual transmissions). If you have driven an EV, you may suspect why...

I would have done it instead of the Tacoma this year, but EV Trucks were a bit late. - Yes they are still a bit pricy - but prices are certainly coming down. - I \'ll wait for the next round. The Tacoma should last unitl the 2nd or 3rd year of production so the bugs are worked out...

I do not want a Hybrid really... - I do not want the hindrance of a dual power-train... - Full EV will do nicely.

Many of the negative comments assume that the technology is static. It most certainly is not. the Tech AND the cost curves are steep. -steeper than most recent technologies.

Some seem even offended /pissed off by the prospect of this EV technology... I do not know what causes that reaction in some people. (buggywhip protectionism analogy?)

Most are very happy NOT buying a diesel, or NOT buying a manual gearbox... but when it comes to EVs some people have strange reactions and spout all kinds of nonsense about EVs...

People even invoke the grid, supply chain issues, and power production capacity concerns (- odd since, they never cared / expressed concer for this in any other context...). It is funny...

EVs and the grid are complementary technologies. One is able to complement the other... - This is the interesting bit...

Toyota's CEO recently made a statement saying that he was not comfortable betting on Full EV technology - I suspect because of the good job Toyota has done on the hybrid end...

BUT within a week the Government of Japan changed his mind. - They came out with an EV target goal for the country of Japan. - Mr CEO appears to be much more comfortable with Full EVs now...

 

Are you saying North American manufacturers ship large quantities of “ewaste” solar panels to Africa, and that they end up in landfills? Or simply that lots of countries in Africa are importing solar panels (which would be mostly from Southeast Asian sources anyway). If it’s the former, can you provide a source?

 

Yeah, I read that too. They are fiberglass and monstrous. They’re even hard to cut onsite. There are some creative options coming online, but there are only so many uses for old fiberglass blades.

 

We built a petroleum infrastructure for cars 100 years ago. Transportation is about 28% of our national energy demand. Boosting the grid's capacity by 28% is totally possible, in way less less time -- and only needs to occur in concert proportionally with EV adoption. Also thanks to solar and battery storage, a lot of those grid & generation upgrades can be deferred or offloaded to distributed generation and folks can (eventually) self-generate for much of their EV charging.

Building charging infrastructure will take time, but if there is money to be made, the market will fill the vacuum.

 

It will happen and eventually we will be all ev. I watched a good video that explains it in a way that I could understand. It’s basically the change that’s scary. If it was the other way around it would be much less acceptable. There is much less maintenance on ev. That said I love my Dino fuel vehicles but could see myself leaning the other way. Gotta keep one for the sound though

 

I will say too that no source of power is particularly more environmentally friendly than the next and honestly we are flys on a gnats ass when it comes to it. The earth has went through violent cycles for 6 billion years, our last ice age was 10k years ago with no human influence. The earth is bigger than us we really haven’t impacted much other than the wildlife and that’s mostly deforestation. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

 

Yep, it’s funny how people say you cannot get a charging station in the middle of nowhere. When there is enough EVs around, those charging station will pop up everywhere like mushrooms. If we can pump crude oil out of the ground, refine it and send it to gas stations in the middle of nowhere, we can do that much more easily with electricity that can be carried over cables.

Oh and all of you who say “I won’t buy one”. I am not sure if that is an option. Once EV become the major form of transportation, the gas refinery/station infrastructure will collapse since the volume of sales would not cover the cost of pumping oil of the ground, refine and transport. Gas will become a niche item. I assume most gas stations will be converted to charging stations. Petrochemistry might survive longer, but most petrochemical products are derived from waste/side products of fuel production. We mainly use them because some smart people found ways to repurpose refinery waste into useful products. So without fuel production, many petrochemical side products won’t be profitable to produce. So some other alternatives that are not profitable today will replace them, and refineries will operate at a much smaller volume to produce speciality products.

 

Because a refinery’s main purpose is to put gas and oil in cars? Lol.

 

I wish all these advocates would go without any fossil fuels for 3 months and tell us about it. They aren’t destroying the environment or causing climate change. Climate change is natural like the tides at the beach. It’s made woolly mammoths and Mastodons extinct, they both walked American soil.

 

i don’t think the question is whether Earth, or the life on Earth will survive it. Earth and life will survive regardless of what we do. The question is whether we can survive it or not. We will kill our civilization and our species long before denting Earth.

Remember when a mass extinction happens, it kills of the dominant species. When an asteroid hit the Earth 65myo, it took out dinosaurs, but mammals and birds living under their shadows survived. There are many species that survived all 5 mass extinctions (classic example is cockroaches). So many things will survive even if we manage to kill our selves.

 

I’m looking forward to it

 

Might as well be driving a loud, fast car as well

 

~80% of the production out of all refineries are fuels. Without a demand for fuel, remaining 20% won’t even be profitable to produce.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained...cts/refining-crude-oil-inputs-and-outputs.php

 

Change is natural, that's true. Ripples on a pond are natural, too, but if you throw a stone in you'll get bigger ripples than would occur on their own.

 

All of those extinctions had nothing to do with man made problems, all natural. One volcano would negate everything we’ve done in the past 100 years. Is a moot fucking point, we have no control and only fools think they do.

 

Yeah but there are things we can control and things we cannot. An asteroid can fall on my house and kill me, but that doesn’t make shooting my self in the head a logical option.

 

Bet. Heavy machinery is run on diesel and they burn a shit ton. Tell me how much environmental distress is caused by mining for batteries and disposal of them. Like I said before equal and opposite reaction. I didn’t invent the phrase.

 

Says who?

 

I’m going to try not to be an asshole. I hunt fossils. I have mammoth, mastodon, giant ground sloth and spear points as well. Our beach used to be 50 miles out from where it is now. That was 12k years ago. There were no refineries or man made climate change. Breaking news, the earth shifts on its axis and creates its own change, like it or not

 

Oh and during the dinosaur period there were oceans in Dallas