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VF tuning collaboration and BS

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by uploadadventure, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. Jan 26, 2021 at 6:47 PM
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    Chadr7858

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    You have to buy the 10 dollar add on for your specific year. From there it is in Toyota/lexus/scion
     
  2. Jan 26, 2021 at 7:35 PM
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    Thanks @Chadr7858. I should have mentioned that I did purchase that add-on. I’ll dig deeper in that section. Is it common that some pids are not functional? Thanks again.
     
  3. Jan 26, 2021 at 7:36 PM
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  4. Jan 26, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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  5. Jan 26, 2021 at 8:35 PM
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  6. Jan 26, 2021 at 8:36 PM
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    Full lock vs partial lock.
    SLU Solenoid is partial lock-1/2 lock
    Lockup status is full lock
    Both in Toyota PID section.
     
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  7. Jan 27, 2021 at 8:32 AM
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  8. Jan 27, 2021 at 10:20 AM
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    I thought I had read in this thread or the main VFTuner thread that you needed to make adjustments to throttle limits if adjusting shift points. Is that the case? What if we lower the shift points? Would we be ok with higher throttle limits? Figure all that means is that more throttle is available if I need it but a shift will occur first anyway.

    Also, is there a way to operate with OBD data in realtime? I was thinking of making something that can plot accelerator/throttle angles as well as speed and overlay that on a specified shift table for an easier way to visualize things. Probably outside the scope of most things here and likely requires an API in a specific programming language.
     
  9. Jan 27, 2021 at 1:45 PM
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    There is no requirement to adjust throttle limits when adjusting the shift schedules.

    OBD Fusion can show OBD data in (near) real time. Get a Bluetooth adapter than can support many PIDs at once with a high refresh rate.
     
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  10. Jan 27, 2021 at 1:49 PM
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    Copy, thanks.

    My adapter reports about every second and I'm happy with that for now. I was hoping I could work with the data directly, in realtime, rather than having to review a log and outside of the dashboard interface I have for Fusion (nice as it is, I can't make custom static graphs with it). I'd just need the raw PID data.
     
  11. Jan 27, 2021 at 2:24 PM
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    I thought Mat was going to provide how to videos and sample files to teach people how to do all these things. I havent delved into much of the tuning but I figured that the guys that have are following structured lessons.
     
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    :rofl:structured....
     
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  13. Jan 27, 2021 at 3:59 PM
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    Structured testing and flashing over and over and over and over and over
     
  14. Jan 27, 2021 at 4:23 PM
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    uploadadventure [OP] It’s all @ColoradoTJ’s fault

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    Slacking on first post. Going to work on that later tonight. If you guys have tunes you want me to remove let me know.
     
  15. Jan 27, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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    All of our 04b33 tunes lol
     
  16. Jan 27, 2021 at 4:32 PM
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    uploadadventure [OP] It’s all @ColoradoTJ’s fault

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    Haha right. Those are going away for sure.
     
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    There is a very real possibility that the more values you try and log, the slower the polling rate is. In other words, get rid of some of the "gauges" you are monitoring once you really don't need to monitor those parameters any longer, like coolant temp, trans temp, oil temp, VVT etc. The polling and thereby refresh rate should increase significantly and give you a better idea of when exactly a "thing" related to shifting for example is actually happening.
     
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    I hadn't considered that polling was done only for requested PIDs. I thought it was a data frame sent in regular intervals that Fusion parsed to pick out the requested PIDs.

    That said, I don't think I'm explaining. myself well. The speed at which I get data and the data I get is fine. I just want to take that data and plot it on a graph. The graph would have the same axes and values as a shift map so I could see, in real-time, where the the throttle/accelerator state is in a visual perspective rather than raw logs. I know we canog PIDs and see the values over time on a graph, but I'm after something else.

    Picture a shift table exactly as you see it in VFTuner, except there's a little red dot which represents where the truck is at right this moment and it updates with every poll. Time is not an axis. I'm thinking that'd be helpful to see how your driving relates to shifting, at least in my head. 10 degrees of accelerator at a KPH that isn't actually KPH feels like too much of a guessing game. Sorry for the confusion but does this make sense?
     
  19. Jan 27, 2021 at 5:50 PM
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    Use techstream. You can get and analyze all the data, including shift points.
    Techstream also can flag events for more analysis.
     
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    Drove @PapaRee 's tune a few more times through the hills at high speed and got a bit curious why there is too mush of the dead pedal between 2200-2300 rpms. In my previous screenshots, the accel is at 54*, but throttle position is at 25* around 85-91 % of the load. I looked at papree's airload control and it seems there is a dip between 2000-2400 rpms and across the entire load range. I' moving the hump to 2400. Perhaps this help with the pedal in 2200 range. Also I'm going to jack the numbers in accel throttle request. Will see if it makes a
    difference

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