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Buyer Beware: KTJO 4X4 Driver's Side Grab Handles w/ A Pillars, HUD, and Bowl Lights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by tonered, Dec 13, 2019.

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DAH Delivery Challenge

  1. Ordered?

    27.2%
  2. Received?

    37.9%
  3. Have to bend upper clip to fit?

    15.9%
  4. Missing Upper Cover?

    6.0%
  5. Missing Lower Cover?

    3.4%
  6. Incorrect Hardware?

    13.4%
  7. Scratches / Damage?

    9.9%
  8. Other (oh gawd)?

    20.7%
  9. Magically Perfect!

    25.4%
  10. Stuck in Shipping Label Created Purgatory?

    3.9%
  11. OGs Still Waiting since Before the Ban?

    7.3%
  12. Return Attempted?

    1.7%
  13. Return Actually Happened?

    3.0%
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  1. Feb 1, 2021 at 9:51 AM
    #3901
    Bob1971

    Bob1971 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah lawsuits are out of hand these days. The legal system needs some real changes. File all the lawsuits you want but if you loose you pay all legal fees. This would be my first change.
     
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  2. Feb 1, 2021 at 9:51 AM
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    tonered

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    I agree with you there.

    In my mind, the key at this moment would be beating that 4Runner handle to market. With a US mold maker, folks should be able to do that due to shipping times and the upcoming, long Chinese holiday.
     
  3. Feb 1, 2021 at 9:52 AM
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    tonered

    tonered [OP] bartheloni

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    That sounds reasonable to me.
     
  4. Feb 1, 2021 at 9:53 AM
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    I haven't read past this if your situation has changed but you still maybe able to go the CC route. They have a stipulation for purchases made in advance you have up until 90 days PAST the date of receipt of product to file a dispute. I am not sure how it will play out if you didn't have an exact date to receive the product etc.

    I did this with an 8k guided trip, they couldn't perform and I paid through CC 1 year before. CC refunded me and took it up with the merchant. Worth a shot. I did VISA which was easy and my buddy used American express, his was a bit more hassle but still got it. AE actually doesn't have a time limit I think(may have changed)
     
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  5. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:08 PM
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    STi and Taco

    STi and Taco Not a Super Hero

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    Ive not seen such an option in regards to Chase credit cards. My handle is still en route to KTJO. USPS picked it up on January 19. It didnt arrive in Los Angeles until January 29. No shipping updates since. So it will probably show up destroyed amd get charged a restocking fee of some sort.
     
  6. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:15 PM
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    See this link. It applies to all Visa, if you search visa core rules. PG 635 of this link.

    https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/5419069/FastTransact_February2019/PDF/visa-rules-public-10.2017.pdf

    "If the merchandise or services were to be provided after the Transaction Processing Date, 120 calendar days from the last date that the Cardholder expected to receive the merchandise or services or the date that the Cardholder was first made aware that the merchandise or services would not be provided, not to exceed 540 calendar days from the Transaction Processing Date"

    Again its worth a shot but not sure if you have enough compelling evidence. Going this route and winning will also ding the merchant.

    Edit it might not be worth the hassle for you but something to keep in mind for everyone.
     
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  7. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:37 PM
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    tonered

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    And, chargebacks are a mofo for sellers. If I paid with a CC, I would have done this just for the fact that I had to bend metal for it to fit.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:43 PM
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    pochoboy

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    geez, i forgot the US geography, you shipped it back to KTJO from Washington State and USPS route it down south to Los Angeles and now needs to ship it back North to Oregon?:confused:

    my return from Hawaii to KTJO4x4 took 5 days at most. What are they thinking on the West Coast? Is it the antifa riots/takeover affecting USPS service around Oregon?
     
  9. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:47 PM
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    STi and Taco

    STi and Taco Not a Super Hero

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    I'm in Georgia
     
  10. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:48 PM
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    pochoboy

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    my bad... lol but still
     
  11. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:49 PM
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    STi and Taco

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    13+ days to get to Oregon from Georgia is fucking insane.

    About to file a missing package search request.
     
  12. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:52 PM
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    pochoboy

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    trust me, I know how you feel. It's a double whammy having to deal with (nameless) and USPS.
     
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  13. Feb 1, 2021 at 1:55 PM
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    tonered

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    IMHO, I believe naming "KTJO 4x4" in posts keeps this thread in search filters. I could be very wrong though?
     
  14. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:04 PM
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    pochoboy

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    it should be removed from title?, as it seems most don't want to promote or sustain the business, lol
    Grab Handle would do as they are the only company that produces the item

    just saying
     
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    STrooper

    STrooper For HIS glory!

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    I remember when I gave my honest opinion about this grab handle bs in hope that people would stop making a blind purchase, specially a person that is no longer a member and hard to get in touch with etc.
    All I got was a bunch of..:crapstorm:from people. I truly hope that everyone get their money back or whatever issue solved.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:09 PM
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    tonered

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    That might be the correct answer. My uninformed guess is just that repetition is what gets picked up?

    Either way, whatever we're doing seems to be working.

    :cheers:
     
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  17. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:11 PM
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    I'm pretty much screwed on the restocking fee anyways, as the original box was slightly damaged when it got to me to begin with.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:14 PM
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    tonered

    tonered [OP] bartheloni

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    Yeah. All that processing and strict usage limits that were studied. Highly efficient processes are being disturbed at KTJO 4x4 HQ.

    It's okay. @MESO 's company policies are written in stone.
     
  19. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:19 PM
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    pochoboy

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    hmmm, the box is Chessy weak to be shipped out like that and not double boxed like the big online retailers do. I guess its to keep costs down or she'd pass down the cost for double boxing and thats not speaking of the xtra work that would be created.

    Maybe the colorful graphics box must have added costs to the box, maybe it should have been boxed in a better sturdier brown box to keep the parts from damage. Don't need the advertisement
     
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  20. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:22 PM
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    tonered

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    Very true. I don't need some bespoke box to get me excited about a proper mod. Even the stupid little box for the cover exchange was branded. Spend the money getting the damn house in order and not hold folks' kits for ransom.
     
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