The Official Gym & Fitness Thread

I don't get it. I don't hear about this much, if at all, in oly lifting. I watched that video and he is clearly on his toes and has lots of forward knee travel, but still, how does that detach a quad? Fuckin crazy. I think a lot of it is tren but still.

 

All that weight shift is being put on tendons only. No bone structure helping ease the catch.

 

Crazy. Doesn't even seem like much weight. Masters Nationals was like 250 I think? I've been on my toes on 400lb front squats and never thought I'd detach a quad. Scares the shit out of me lol hell I've seen that dude front squat 340lbs on his toes and be fine. Must be a freak accident

 

I think it’s the sudden change of the direction. Front squats are never going to be sudden. Andrew Clayton did the same thing on an axle record attempt last year I think. A lot of people have knee pain from push jerking and split jerking

 

Don't all olympic lifters do this same movement on clean and jerk though? I don't hear about many quad detachments with them. Gotta be either poor form/knee travel or strong muscles with weak tendons. Or both I suppose.

Oly lifters are usually drug tested so most aren't abusing tren. Tren is known to grow muscle very fast but to the point where tendons can't keep up and are significantly weaker. Personally I think that's a lot of it. But then again, I'm just trying to reassure myself that's all it is so I feel better the next time I do log or axle press lol

 

Your average Nat level Olympic lifter isn’t going to be strong enough to hurt themselves lol

 

True

 

The only time you see powerlifters popping quad tendons is around 800lbs and they’ve usually been squatting that weight in training for a multiple years and are on everything they can get away with without extreme negative sides

 

It's just crazy to me that this guy can front squat 300lbs+ but a 1/4 depth squat for a 260lb push press detaches his quad.

 

Good.
The walking boot sucks, better than crutches but still sucks lol

Quad detachments are something we hear about in long distance running. The times I have heard trail runners do it, it's typically when out on a run and it's descending a technical hill (in the middle of nowhere with no cell service usually). When I hear about road runners doing it, typically they snap when not running. I know someone who snapped their quad tendon going to pick up their laundry basket. Totally non-scientific but that's what I've noticed.

I think it's one of those things where the tendon hangs on at much as it can and then it doesn't take much that final time to snap. So other movements may cause the problem they just let go during other movements.

And also what I understand is that as that tendon starts fraying and losing connection, it's not really painful so there isn't much warning at all that your body tells you to let you know to back off.

I've heard more runners doing this than lifters which I think is interesting. So it obviously doesn't take a whole lot of weight to cause that.

 

A runner takes thousands and thousands of impact steps, a lifter doesn’t get anywhere close to that amount of reps on any impact movement. Seems to me like you can slam your body weight onto each quad tendon separately millions of times and snap a tendon or do the same thing with more weight and less overall reps.

 

This is true. Depending on speed and grade 1.5-2 times your body weight comes down on your lower legs each step. Cumulatively that is a lot. Especially when we talk about 10,000 reps per 5 miles.

It just doesn’t sound as amazing as lifting 400+ lbs at one time.

 

I think the difference is that a squat and an oly lift the hips go back and there isn’t the forward shearing force on the knee...combine that with maximal force over a short sharp movement (the push dip) and I think you have it. The weight itself is less of a factor than the force generated in trying to accelerate through a push press. If he push pressed with his hips back or sank under it like an oly lifter (I know not possible) I don’t think he would have detached the quads.

gear doesn’t help either

 

Hit a 10 lb PR on squats yesterday at 385. Feeling good about 405 in a few weeks.

 

First time ever having real pain, not soreness, in the lower back after doing log presses today. Fucking sucks.

 

Not flexing glutes enough. I can tell by watching you press.

Flex glutes.

 

Yes sir. Today sucked. First day back in since covid and body felt like it got hit by a train during the first set. I guess my body is using it’s energy to fight off the sickness cause I wasn’t expecting that.

 

I'm hoping to get the green light to start lifting again in the next couple weeks. I've got physical therapy today, then another one next week. Depending on how these next 2 sessions go, I might be able to ease back into lifting. I herniated a disk in my back back in October doing deadlifts, not sure what happened, my powerlifting coach was watching, there wasn't anything wrong with my form. The thing is, my back didn't hurt the next day, so I kept lifting. Then in early December, it finally "snapped" and I was in serious pain. Ended up in the ER, because I couldn't use my left leg basically because of the nerve pain.

Fingers crossed.

 

Failed a dead PR attempt of 475 because I’m a bitch. Flew off the ground and stalled at my knees. Should have kept pulling. Damn it.

 

Damn that sounds familiar.... Been there lol