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So you push your 1st gen offroad - what cracks next?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Squeaky Penguin, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. Feb 6, 2021 at 1:33 PM
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  2. Feb 6, 2021 at 2:12 PM
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    Interesting! Most of us have seen that failure/fatigue on the passenger side first. I would encourage you to add limit straps to eliminate the yanking energy the shock and LCA are putting on the coil bucket.
     
  3. Feb 6, 2021 at 3:24 PM
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    Yeah, I can see the benefit of limit straps. I've always associated them with long travel or SAS...which I know very very little about.
    It looks pretty straight forward. Run the bottom of the strap from a longer lower shock bolt to a welded tab?
     
  4. Feb 6, 2021 at 3:51 PM
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    Yes, pretty much. I attached the lower end to my unused sway bar mount.

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  5. Feb 6, 2021 at 3:57 PM
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    Ahhh! That makes sense! I also have an unused sway bar mount.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2021 at 5:40 PM
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    That's a beefy shock bucket.
     
  7. Feb 8, 2021 at 6:23 AM
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    What length did you get? Thinking of getting some straps to prevent any of this
     
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  8. Feb 8, 2021 at 9:25 AM
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  9. Feb 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM
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    I still haven't strapped my front since ADS said not to. Wonder if I'll regret that... :notsure:
     
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  10. Feb 8, 2021 at 12:38 PM
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    Did they give a reason why?
     
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  11. Feb 8, 2021 at 12:40 PM
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    Said with the "top out protection" it would end up limiting the travel/not letting it do what it's supposed to do.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2021 at 5:10 PM
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    What is this magical top out protection of which you speak? Is there evidence it will somehow keep coil buckets from shattering?
     
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  13. Feb 8, 2021 at 5:24 PM
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    Stuff and junk and things...
    Old school air shock tech in oem ADS coilovers, yours probably have it. It's an internal spring to slow the last 1-2 inch of droop.
     
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  14. Feb 8, 2021 at 5:39 PM
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    I wonder how much it actually helps with top out forces.
    Is ADS the only ones that do that? Does Fox?
     
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    Wouldn't it still transmit energy up thru the top hat? A strap stops all that.

    Edit: To say it better...

    Wouldn't it still transmit energy down thru the top hat and therefore yank on the CB?
     
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    Stuff and junk and things...
    yup since the 70's or 80's on 2.0 air shocks to lessen the top out feeling on very light vehicles. Current FOX OEM is a small rubber bumper on the back of the seal head that breaks apart if you top out enough.

    I assume its still pulling down on the coil bucket at droop, they all do it. The droop spring lessens the full droop yank you feel. Limit straps are the way to go to help with the failure you experienced.
     
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  17. Feb 9, 2021 at 7:09 AM
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    In order to do straps, I would still need to limit the shock before it fully reaches the end of it's travel right? And either way straps do nothing for the upward forces the coil bucket experiences. If anything straps and a cross brace are the only true solution to help mitigate the forces on the buckets, even with decent bump stops. I'll definitely be interested to see how the buckets hold up now that I have been going much faster.
     
  18. Feb 15, 2021 at 6:34 AM
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    How did you go about fixing this? Just noticed a crack on my 02 in the same spot
     
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  19. Feb 15, 2021 at 7:22 AM
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    I cut out a section and boxed it back in with 3/16" plate. There were also cracks starting by all the other bed mounts. So lots of other little welds, reinforcements, and rivets used throughout. No issues thus far.

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  20. Feb 15, 2021 at 7:48 AM
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    Wow looks great! Thanks for the quick reply!
     

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