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Hammer Hangers® by Archive Garage 2005-2023 Tacoma Shackle Hangers

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Feb 11, 2021 at 1:16 PM
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  2. Feb 11, 2021 at 4:54 PM
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    For those asking for photos here you go. My friend and I are stumped. The photo is a bit blurry (apologies for my potato phone), but it reads 9" to top of bump. Some things we have done to make sure we're not limiting travel is unhooked brake/ABS lines, loosened shackle bolts (for bushing bind), and unbolted the carrier bearing (which removed the idea of drive shaft limitations). This is full droop where the frame is on jack stands and the axle is hanging down. I understand in real world applications with one tire pushing up thus forcing the opposite tire to push down even more you will see some more travel, but I still imagined this to hang lower. It seems as if the leaf is restricting the shackle from going past the 50/50 point allowing it to flatten out like you see a lot of these pictures on the forums and social media.


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  3. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:06 PM
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    Sounds like Eric already answered you. I would just wait and go wheeling and see what happens. It Sounds like with actual forces at play it’ll flex fine.
     
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  4. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:11 PM
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    Eric has answered me however for some reason there is a discrepancy somewhere as he has stated that people with my exact setup have achieved 11 1/2" of travel and I am only getting 9". I am solely curious to see if anyone else who has ran this setup has experienced what I am running into.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:12 PM
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    Yeah Brady, if you think about it, the spring may be stiff enough that the length doesn't change much (due to its design to carry load as Eric mentioned) even with the weight of the axle to where the shackle cant rotate. Like Randy mentioned, at the point you take it offroad and articulate the axle that there may be a force large enough to flatten the shackle out.
     
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  6. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:13 PM
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    That’s the thing though, those travel numbers come from real world use, not in a driveway on stands. Go wheeling before you drive yourself crazy trying to solve a “problem” that likely isn’t even a problem.
     
  7. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:13 PM
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    Quit worrying about numbers, try it out and see if it works for your use case.
     
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  8. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:15 PM
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  9. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:20 PM
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    And i totally agree about getting slightly more suspension travel when truly articulating the truck however in trying to appropriately setup the suspension there is a baseline that is set/understood which in this case is 11 1/2" as I am being informed. Also to clarify I am not chasing numbers however I am looking to maximize my suspension setup for the most travel to ensure I am using my shock in the application that it is built to perform in. For instance if I setup this shock as is and accepted the 9" than I am not using (roughly) 4 1/2" of the shock. This will prevent the shock from fully cycling the oil inside which can have long term effect on the shock.
     
  10. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:20 PM
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    One or two things modded... Check out the build thread
    You do realize that the bumpstop does compress... right? So that 9" to the top of the bumpstop is like saying my shoe goes on but isn't tight because I don't know how to tie my shoelaces.

    Also, put weight on the axle and it will pull the springs/shackle down more. You have both tires off in the picture so that is around 70-100lbs a side that isn't pulling down.
     
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  11. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:34 PM
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    It looks to me like your spring is not flexing downward enough to allow the shackle to drop. As the spring flexes (from flat to "u") the overall lenght (eyelet to eyelet) shortens - which would give the shackle room to roll forward.
     
  12. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:37 PM
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    I’m not sure what answer you’re looking for. If you’ve checked everything then the only thing that’s left is the leafs, which is what Eric as well as deaver have told you. Best of luck on your hunt but I don’t think you’re going to find what you’re looking for in here.
     
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    did you strip your leaf pack down to flex it? You probably aren't strong enough to compress a spring that is designed for 500lbs more than the stock weight of the truck
     
  14. Feb 11, 2021 at 5:40 PM
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    Gotta keep the shaft lubed
     
  15. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:11 PM
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    In the pictures, you're also missing 150-200lbs of wheel and tires, that's 1/2 your unsprung weight, the rear axle only weighs like 150lbs, so that isn't real world like the pics you've seen.
    I recommend you sell the 14" shocks, and get 12".
    Here's a quote of me recommending 12" shocks to people 2 years ago in the Archive Relocation thread. Just because my tower can fit 14", doesn't mean that's what I recommend.
     
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  16. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:18 PM
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    Put a bottle jack in between the frame and bump and jack the shit out of it! Force is always the answer.
     
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    You guys think I can do the hammer hangers with just an angle grinder and a hammer? I have a drill but it’s ancient drill that doesn’t do much drilling anymore lol.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2021 at 7:36 PM
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    No. I would recommend you go to HF and buy a drill. It’s a pain in the ass even with a drill.
     
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  19. Feb 11, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    Shiiieeeet.

    I’ll probably just get a dewalt drill. I have the batteries and charger from a few other tools.

    so angle grinder and drill it is.
     
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    That’s what I used! Also get a pry bar! Step bit helps as well!
     
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