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VF tuning collaboration and BS

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by uploadadventure, Nov 5, 2020.

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  1. Feb 17, 2021 at 2:23 AM
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    If I recall correctly, Mat said making a table averaging the group would be a great place to start.
     
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    We just going to worry about the bolded section after?
     
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  4. Feb 17, 2021 at 3:19 AM
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    What does that even mean?
     
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  5. Feb 17, 2021 at 4:26 AM
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    Someone get me if we still need an Excel spreadsheet of whatever. I use Excel professionally daily in my job and can make anything happen that we need.
     
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    I assume it's upshift and downshift tables?
    Other than stating the obvious (or what I assume to be obvious), I'm not sure why we would need to change them. Much to learn...
     
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  8. Feb 17, 2021 at 8:09 AM
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    Dynometer testing today rescheduled to next Wednesday. The roads are too bad plus the shop is up a hill that’s a solid sheet of ice.
     
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    To me, it's because we've changed the 2d shift tables that we need to adjust torque shifting maps. We just worked bass ackwards.
     
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    I was thinking about this:
    What if you made a 4th gear, gear lock version of the proposed test tunes to get better dyno results?
     
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    Does my suggestion make sense? Mat said to blend the tables minus the sport map. So that's essentially an average of all the maps right? Import the torque shift maps into excel and make a new one. Each cell in the new table would have to be the average of the coorisponding cells from the existing maps. Right?
     
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    Educate me. What would be the difference between pulling 1st gear versus 4th? Aside from a higher speed. Also I’ve seen some dynos go horrifically bad from going too fast. haha
     
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    The new top left cell would be the average of all the top left cells from the torque shifting maps and so on.
     
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    1:1 transmission ratio. I guess just to compare one tune to another it shouldn't matter
     
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    You are making perfect sense and I can make that happen in a magical way. We’re all of the tables linked previously? I can export all of that data and throw something together pretty quickly.
     
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    Okay so google told me that apparently that’s usually how dynos are run is for whatever gear is closest to 1:1 - so yeah. I’ll be doing that. I’m assuming Kruiser doesn’t have gear lock by default?
     
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  17. Feb 17, 2021 at 11:40 AM
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    No, but I can make you a version if you want one.
     
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    Sounds like that might be helpful for dyno testing. Btw, where exactly do you have the red line set?
     
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    7000, I can make it 7250 for that gearlock one.
     
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    LOL Bro.... making me nervous
     
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