Any PC Builders Out There?

Best buy gonna be your best bet. My 3060ti and 3070 flounder editions just came in. the aftermarket cards gone before they showed in stock.

 

They say the 3090 is only available for online purchase and then pick up in store. Which is just dumb.

 

Sorry I’m throwing myself into this conversation but I feel the need to say that the issue with this is that if you’re not spending for SSDs now other pieces are pointless to spend on. HHDs are the #1 bottleneck in a PC. An i9 32gb of ram is pretty useless if it’s reading/writing off of an HHD. Just my 2c

 

With the specs that @ABA180 posted, I would be surprised if that thing didn't have an NVMe boot drive at the least. Sorry if it was there and I missed it.

Personally, I haven't built a PC in several years that didn't boot from some form of SSD. It is worth the price difference, especially now.

 

If you’re cloning and can stretch the budget a bit pickup a NAS and do a RAID 1 array with those two 6TB drives and drop everything on them through your LAN

 

Yup that's the one, my buddy built it 12-18 months ago. He passed away a few weeks ago. Still working on cracking his password

 

What operating system was he running? You tried windows cracker? Condolences on loss of your bud.

Run linux on flashdrive and see the password or just erase drive and reinstall windows

 

I considered that but I also want to store some game data on them and apparently with raid if the mobo fails you have to replace the mobo with an identical version.

I just want a drive with a clone that's basically recognized as one drive that I can port from computer to computer without any unrecognized hardware issues.

Eventually I'll setup a NAS for an actual backup but right now I just want hardware redundancy as I have gone through two HDD losses albeit a long time ago but losing something that can't be replaced kinda freaks you out you know and I can no longer fit all my stuff on USB externals nor have real reason to and SSD's are just too expensive in the 6TB realm right now nor do I really need their speed.

The 6TB WD Red Pro 10k rpm drives I have I am satisfied with for my needs.

They're much faster than my 1TB WD Black drive from ten years ago I have been migrating from along with my aforementioned USB duplicates.

 

Depends on the HDD.

My WD Red Pro 10k rpm drives read and write pretty dang fast, but they have a huge cache.

My 32gb ram i9 machine clips, though I suppose that's partially due to running the OS on it's own dedicated SSD.

 

After biting the bullet and moving all my data into a managed cloud I feel so much better about not running any redundancy. If you only need a few Terabytes or less and don't mind spending $10/month on data storage, it's a good option.

 

Sorry to hear about your friend.

Once you figure it out if you want to sell let me know, interested definitely if I can't find parts by then.

 

Who do you use? Who has access? Is it encrypted etc?

 

Win 10. Doesn't look like he set up an admin acct, not that I can get into it anyway.

Buddy of mine does IT and gave me a flash drive with a program he thinks will work, hell if I remember the name but gonna try it this week time permitting.

Much appreciated, 48 is way too soon. Wish he listened to the doctors so he would have been a good candidate for a liver transplant; on the other hand, he lived every day as he chose to.

I def want to sell it, it's just way more than I'll use. I don't play online at all and barely play my gaming systems

 

If it’s a software raid then yes but they make hardware raid controllers where this wouldn’t be the case. I get your concerns though. I was strictly talking about a NAS, RAIDs on Windows are a PITA. But you’re absolutely right, if you’re storing game data and such this won’t work.

Yeah for long term media storage I don’t really have any qualms about HDDs. Makes sense.

It really doesn’t depend though. 10k drives are ok for long term media storage/backup but running an OS or games off of them makes a HUGE difference. write speeds are not even close and reliability with moving parts just takes a hit no matter how you look at it.

Check out these benchmarks between the WD Red Pro drives and a standard Samsung Evo 860 SSD (not even talking about top tier NVMe drives that reach ~3500 mb/s write speeds)

 

SATA SSDs end up limited by the SATA AHCI protocol. Any NVMe would double that score. Then you have SSDs like my Corsair MP600 which can easily test in the 4,000 Mb/s write speed. Makes a big difference when editing media.

 

... I have an NVME boot/game drive. HDD is for media storage. No issues here. HDD are still perfectly acceptable for media storage and the $/gb still can’t be touched by SSDs.

 

To each there own. I'm certainly not knocking anyone that choses to run platters for storage to save some costs. There's still a place for spiners in the $/gb market for sure. Some of us though have moved on to greener pastures for various reasons. Performance and reliability, nothing can touch solid state but it comes at a cost. If you're okay with the cost, the benefits are there. Looking forward games will be accessing more textures on the fly to try and eliminate loading screens in a similar manner to what the new consoles support. HDDs won't support that. Some SSDs won't even support it.

 

I'm lazy so I just use OneDrive through Office 365. It is encrypted if you chose to use BitLocker and it's pretty easy to setup 2FA on your Microsoft account. I won't say it's a fantastic value but I need Office anyways and get it paid through work so 365 makes sense for me. I also don't save anything like tax documents without encrypting them separately through Adobe Acrobat Pro for extra security. Overall, it's pretty simple and gives me 6 TB which is more than enough for the important stuff. It also makes wiping and reinstalling Windows a lot less stressful.

 

Unfortunately this goes for most tech companies right now. The race is on to see who can collect the most data and gain the most market share. Morals and such are out the window. I still have some trust in Apple but they will break at some point as well.

I own and operate an MSP and there is zero trust even with "partners" that sell their products for them and have for many years.

 

Cook would gladly run over you and your family with a steamroller if it meant a 1% increase in iPhone market share.