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What non lithium Batteries do you suggest?

Discussion in 'Towing' started by Dansly56, Feb 11, 2021.

  1. Feb 11, 2021 at 1:57 PM
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    Dansly56

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    Just bought a travel trailer and looking for non lithium batteries ideas to boondocking for say 4 nights trips. What are you guys running on your 22ft travel trailers? Running the AC is not a issue but we would like to run the furnace, hear the shower water, use outlets to charge phones, use the trailer radio. Would I need a generator inverter or solor to do this or will 2 golf cart 8V batteries run these options for 4 nights?
     
  2. Feb 11, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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    My first suggestion would be to do an audit of your use before doing any upgrades/changes. Is your fridge multi/propane capable? I would imagine the hot water tank is propane capable as well. LED lights? A lot of factors to assess and consider before doing any upgrades. 4 days might really push it depending on your usage regardless of your batteries/solar/generator setup. A good shakedown run or two will be well worth the time/effort before spending any money.

    I recently quadrupled my usable battery storage (based on a dual lithium battery upgrade over the 2 flooded AGM batteries) and doubled my solar capabilities yet will still always carry a 2200w generator and a few extra gallons of gas just in case. I am not a big user of the tv and radio in the unit, and rarely need to charge phones because I never camp/boondock in any cell coverage areas and other than an occasional book on tape i dont turn them on/use them. With that i expect to get 5-6 days boondocking with good-better solar conditions.

    Lots of factors to consider and look at before starting any upgrades, so I apologize for not making any specific battery recommendations quite yet.
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2021 at 10:04 PM
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    No Led lights, no tv for me, radio once in a while but can use a different one, the fridge is multi/propane, water heater is propane as well. I guess my real question would be will 2 golf cart V8 be enough juice to run furnace set at 74 degrees when temps drop to low 40s, outlets for charging phones and have the lights on for a couple of hrs each night? I might just go the Yamaha generator route if need be as the solar can get expensive and have to drill on the roof. I was also looking into 4 golf cart batteries but that can be real heavy on the tongue weight.
     
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    I think Costco interstate batteries are a great value. I've had them last as long in my truck as a die hard platinum or odyssey yellow top, but much much cheaper than those batteries. I can buy 3 Costco interstate batteries for the price of 1 die hard platninum.
     
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    Use the Solar to charge. Have a small genny in case. Perhaps a small wind turbine.

    Check your usage and conserve.
     
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    Work on converting all of your lights to led. It makes a huge difference. Also install a proper battery monitor first, so you can watch and get a good idea of your consumption. Start thinking in terms of amp hours. I currently run two group 24 deep cycles on my tongue - theyre light, but they only total 135 AH, about half of which is useable. Even running the radio and furnace I can make them last a weekend. As soon as they crap out I'm converting to a pair of golf cart GC2's to get that sweet spot of ~200 AH.

    Like you I wish I could afford LiPos. Theyre stupid expensive.
     
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    How many of them and are they 12volt or 6volt? How many days do you get dry camping?
     
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    I think I’m gonna go with 2 golf cart 6v batteries either Trojan or interstate extreme battlers and a generator. Later I’ll get a 600w solar system to charge them. Really just need them to run furnace, charge phones, have some lights on at night.
     
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    what Trojans 6v do you suggest as I see many option for 6v Trojans
     
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    One of these. Well, actually two of these. :D

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    lead or AGM?
     
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    Lead flooded has the higher AH rating, model for model.
     
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    Are AGM better on maintenance, recharge and taking them to 80% vs 50% or is that all sales tactics for the AGM batteries vs lead?
     
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    No that is true. Deeper discharge and they can sit in storage longer without maintenance.
     
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    Have you heard of crown agm batteries or lifeline brands and if so are they comparable to say a Trojan brand?
     
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    I dont know much about them to be honest. The one thing about AGMs is that they are expensive. They cost nearly double that of a flooded battery and with no weight advantage. So I'm looking at 600 for a set instead of 300, and for that kind of money I might as well go balls to the wall and get a 200 AH LiPO for $800. :D
     
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    that’s exactly what I’m contemplating! this battery game is no joke LOL... I was thinking about going with a AGM over acid batteries but like you said might as well cry once
     
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