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Solid Axle Swap For 2021 Tacoma?

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Car1, Mar 13, 2021.

  1. Mar 13, 2021 at 7:04 PM
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    02hilux

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    Try MC RCLT setup.... if they decide to make any production run.
     
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  2. Mar 13, 2021 at 7:06 PM
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  4. Mar 13, 2021 at 7:10 PM
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    Drop it off to rocksolidtoys
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    There isnt just a kit you can buy. it will have to be made but with time and effort your can do it yourself or you can find a reputable fab team near you that is willing to do it go for it build your dream truck. Just a few thing to take into consideration is where you live if you have to have vehicle inspections done it will probably fail them after the conversion, as someone above mentioned due to the removal of a lot of electronic safety related items, as well as the bumper heights will be higher.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2021 at 9:08 AM
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    Not sure if you're serious or just trolling.
     
  8. Mar 15, 2021 at 9:25 AM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Oh solid axle swaps are very serious. Not really something an amateur should attempt
     
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  9. Mar 15, 2021 at 9:37 AM
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    I know there are a couple guys that have SAS's the newer 3rd gen Tacoma. Just for a frame of reference, RSG offroad in Denver did a 5th gen 4Runner they dubbed the T40R. Obviously they went a little nuts, but I recall reading a post one of the guys made saying the SAS was "impractical for an average consumer" they had over $40k in parts at their cost and it didnt even include the labor. I would think you could do it as I've seen a few SAS'd 3rd gens out there but I would say be prepared to have $25-30K in parts and labor if you do it right and want to keep the majority of the electronics. SpartanXtaco on instagram has a 2016 that he did but I think I recall him saying he had about $40k in swap by the time it was done. Good Luck!
     
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  10. Mar 15, 2021 at 9:40 AM
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    lots of good info and opinions already in this thread. IMHO if you have to even ask where to find parts a solid axle swap is not for you.

    Even with a "kit" you're going to need lots of special fitment parts with no universal off the self solutions
     
  11. Mar 15, 2021 at 9:43 AM
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    Edited to say: At least with an SAS you could actually get the parts to do it.
     
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  12. Mar 15, 2021 at 10:10 AM
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    I wonder where that cost is coming from. If they bought a Dynatrac or Currie axle for $15,000+ then I can see that but you can put together a junkyard SAS for under $10k (or close to) including wheels and tires.
     
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    They did Custom Curries front and rear, 3 link front, 4 link rear, they had to move the motor mounts up 1" to accommodate up travel, I believe they went the custom route in order to not lose any of the ABS or electronics on it. the bragging point was "zero dash lights". I would have to go back and look at the details again but they went balls to the wall on it. I'm sure there are guys that can slap a junk yard ton under it and make it run but it's a lot more R&D to not have the dash lit up like a Christmas tree and the vehicle in limp mode. From my experience with all of my buddies who have done SAS on their vehicles, running a junk yard ton up front is cool and all but you need to be able to run 40s for any acceptable amount of diff clearance otherwise its a boat anchor. The stock Toyota rear axle would shit itself pretty quickly trying to move the weight of 40s, a rear one-ton would be needed... that effectively doubles your cost in axles, shocks, labor etc. Now you could go with a TG or Diamond custom housing but why do all that work and spend all that money to run 37s... you can long travel, do fenders and bedsides and be in it less to accomplish that.
     
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    That would make more sense as they spent about $20k-$25k in axles.

    I would disagree that you have to run 40s, people were running 60/14b o 35s for years then 37s when those became cool. 40's are definitely the new hotness that everyone is shooting for but definitely not a requirement. The Currie Rockjocks are also higher clearance than standard 60s. A 14b is almost direct bolt-in, I suspect the 4runner would be close, though the new 3rd gen rear end is a bit beefier than the 2nd gens and 4runners.

    Interesting build, I would like to see how they have zero dash lights and what tone ring they used to get the speed fixed since no one makes a tone ring for it.
     
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    That's exactly my point.
     
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    You’d be hard pressed to do it for 10k. For front and rear junkyard axle with stock internals youll have 1500-2k. Add lockers, chromoly shafts, gears etc. axle adds up quick.

    Parts add up quick in general. Material isn’t cheap either.
     
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  17. Mar 16, 2021 at 7:02 AM
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    5 beadlock and 5 - 40" tires cost me $4500 new during Xmas sale :annoyed:. That's half your $10k est cost :anonymous:. But $10k is a doable number with d60/14b or a waggy 44/toy8 or 9.5 rear if you don't have a specific built in mind using leaf spring FR/RR.
     
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    Ya seems about right. The front axle with links, steering, lockers, gears, etc should come in around 4-5k depending on how Gucci you want to go.

    So a full axle swap is going to cost more than an SAS which I was referencing. However, it can be done for about $4k more but again it depends on how Gucci you want it. Ask me how I know.

    BTW: Stock axles are cheap, 14b sell for around $200-300 and D60s are typically $300-$400
     
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  19. Mar 16, 2021 at 8:27 AM
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    02hilux What do you mean there’s no road, I’m here

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    A self built, street legal crawler will cost over $25k in parts alone if you have a specific built in mind and if buying 95% new parts. I would understand a $40k+ drop off, turn key crawler if the shop do all the leg work while you sit comfortably on your couch waiting for the phone call that it's ready for pick up.

    Rough EST:
    -Custom FR/RR axles $12k+
    -3 link FR & 3 link RR ~$4k
    -4 custom valving C/O ~$5k
    -Crawl box and driveshaft $3k+
    -Beadlock and tires ~$4k
    -Frame reinforcement, steering, and loose accessories ~$2k

    It comes down to what you want done to your crawler.
     
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    Awesome discussion, so I think you are right on a turn key drop off and pick up regarding price. I think we can agree on that. Part markups, labor, etc, makes sense.

    As a DIY project however it's not as expensive as people think. So I have a build sheet for all my cars, listing out parts needed, manufacturer, price and what I actually paid. Below is where I am at.

    -Junkyard F/R axles ~ 6.5k (Includes rebuild kit, 5.38, F/R Grizzly, Truss, Shock mounts, diff covers, high steer etc)
    -3 link F & Dbl-Tri link R ~$2k (Links, hardware, heims, link mounts , double triangulated crossmember, etc)
    -4 King valving C/O ~$3.2k (King 2.5w Resi)
    -Beadlock and tires ~$4.5k
    -Frame reinforcement, steering, and loose accessories ~0k - these are included in the prices above, but frame reinforcements are $150..

    Overall for complete axle and suspension build for a rolling chassis, I'm sitting at $17k but I agree depends on what you want to do.
     
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