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6" pro comp front end rebuild problems

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Iceytaco, Mar 28, 2021.

  1. Mar 28, 2021 at 1:32 AM
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    Iceytaco

    Iceytaco [OP] New Member

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    Hey guys I've got a 05 quad cab trd sport with the whole 6" pro comp lift plus 35's. First off hated it since i bought the truck, its so stiff. Now its time for a front end rebuild truck has 210k and I've given ger hell for my 100k with her. I want to replace both upper and lower control arms and my cv axles. Since my lift creates so much stress what are my options here? Any input appreciated for a more comfortable ride and better in the trails dealing with the pro comp lift!!
     
  2. Mar 28, 2021 at 1:52 AM
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    Key-Rei

    Key-Rei Well-Known Member

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    For starters throw away all the 6" pro-crap parts and get yourself some good 3" lift 2.5" body coilovers.

    Fox/King/ADS(?)/Icon etc and a replacement leaf pack for the rear, OME/Deaver/Icon/All-Pro with rear shocks to match the front.

    6" lift is way too much for these trucks and drop bracket lifts just suck in general.

    Get some uniball or delta joint upper control arms, rebuild your factory lower control arms with polyurethane bushings and OEM ball joints from ebay.

    After that you should have an excellent ride.
     
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  3. Mar 28, 2021 at 5:06 AM
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    DG92071

    DG92071 Well-Known Member

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    Most people on TW are scared of anything that isn't what 90% of Tacoma owners do (33's, 2.5 - 3" lift) and they will bash anything different because they don't understand it.

    Replace your trucks front struts and springs, the Pro Comps and Ranchos always get a complaint of the ride being too stiff.

    Your drop bracket lift retains stock suspension geometry and places no additional stress on anything compared to stock parts.

    I gotta wonder about a person's knowledge that recommends ditching a drop bracket lift for coilovers and never mentions that the factory crossmember was cut out to install the drop bracket lift. After adding coilovers for 2 1/2" to 3" of lift you'd have 8 1/2" to 9" of lift on a drop bracket lift without replacing that drop bracket crossmember to a stock crossmember.

    8 1/2"/8 1/4" front lift on my truck with zero issues other than the truck getting blown around in high wind conditions. Sway bar delete on mine as well.

    Good luck on getting knowledgeable replies in your thread because you're going to need it!
     
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  4. Mar 28, 2021 at 7:14 AM
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    Key-Rei

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    Nobody is scared, it's just that there's a huge number of people whom have experimented and found what works and what doesn't, and 6"+ lifts just aren't good unless you're going full custom SAS but then it's really not a Tacoma any more as it's on its way to being a rock buggy, and even those guys still run Kings and Fox etc. It's a proven trusted formula. Pro craps and roachos aren't.

    Yup replace cheap crap with more cheap crap good idea that's really going to help ride quality./s

    Not even remotely, yes it has less stress than a pure spacer lift on stock struts but you are spacing your upper and lower control arms apart limiting travel and completely changing the suspension's moment arm and cycle distances. The upper and lower are supposed to move together in two slightly different arcs as they rest at slightly different angles typically the drop brackets will have them nearly flat and trying to move in parallel to each other, you actually have less travel than stock before binding and or hitting the bumps.

    Not all drop brackets required cutting of the cross member, and those that do, well I shouldn't have to explain why that's dumb to someone who's oh so Intelligent as yourself.

    Congrats you're the first person whom I have ever encountered that claims to enjoy riding in Tacoma that handles like a dump truck and if you claim you don't have drive line vibes I'm calling bull shit.


    Getting blown around in the wind, another great reason to sky jack. /s

    More like good luck getting any replies because nobody but me enjoys wasting their time with guys that just want an echo chamber that says their crap is good when there's literally several thousand that have already been there and disagree.

    If you want to be high, be high, if you want to ride well stick with what's proven, again there's a reason as you say 90% are doing the same thing.

    I haven't seen a single hard core off roader on a 6" lift. The center of gravity is too freaking high and the lack of travel makes things dangerous.

    Besides you're only as high as your diffs or in this case your drop bracket.

    Only way to lift your diffs is tires and you can clear 35's on 3" of lift, 37's with the Marlin Crawler RCLT kit.


    If you still want to argue then you're just not willing to listen to reason and experience so I dunno what to tell you other than I hope you enjoy having to take a running jump into your truck and fall out of it every day but,

    dAmN i BeT yOu LoOk CoOl¡

    :duh:
     
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  5. Mar 28, 2021 at 6:49 PM
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    DG92071

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    I'm not going to go through the effort that you went through. Your cheap shots were expected, thank you for reaching my expectations.

    You clearly have no idea what you're writing about. <-period
     
  6. Mar 28, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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    Key-Rei

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    Hey man that's a very mature and respectful stance to take on that, was ready for you to get nasty most 6" lift guys do. So Props, respect.

    Felt like you were calling me out so was just in my mind returning like for like, no hard feelings.

    Turn about is fair play and all.

    I know that I know what I'm talking (writing) about and don't have to prove my history and experience to you.

    That said if you haven't driven or even just ridden in a truck on 35's on 16/17" wheels and a nice Fox/Icon/King suspension I highly recommend you do.

    It's seriously a night and day difference over Bilstein 5100's which are way better than stock and stock is equal or better than Rancho and Pro Comps in my experience. I've ridden on just about all of them at some point.

    Still I stand by my points, we can agree to disagree you seem more reasonable than I expected in that.

    If what you got suits your fancy and you're happy well then you do you but I know I couldn't stand it personally having tried a truck with a 6" Pro-Comp.

    :thumbsup:
     
  7. Mar 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM
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    DG92071

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    The reason drop bracket lifts were invented is because none of the suspension's geometry is changed.

    Driveshafts are part of the driveline. Steering shafts are part of the steering system.

    With a drop bracket lift every suspension part is moved equally, no additional stresses are placed on any suspension part.

    There are positive and negative attributes to everything, not limited to but including different types of lifts and different amounts of lifts. Most Tacoma owners choose 2.5"-3" lifts and their trucks are not affected by high winds nearly as much as my truck with 8+ inches of lift. However when those height challenged trucks are high centered miy truck will go over the same obstacle with about as much difficulty as going over a speed bump in one of their trucks.

    A huge advantage to a drop bracket lift on a 4wd with IFS is that the CV angles remain completely stock which is something that coilovers that provide lift can not accomplish.

    I am continually amazed by a lot of TW members comments, a lot of them regurgitate what they've read as being fact when the actual fact is they have never accomplished what they're writing about and literally have no clue how their truck, or anyone else's truck, works.

    Snitches and bitches get stitches but only in real life, online they're rewarded, so go ahead claim your reward.
     
  8. Mar 29, 2021 at 12:45 PM
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    ToyoTaco25

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    OP you can probably help diffuse the above arguments and potential future arguments on this topic if you answer one thing. Are you wanting better ride for the pavement on your way to work or are you a “hardcore off roader” that wants the best suspension lift out there?
     

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