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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Mar 29, 2021 at 7:09 PM
    koditten

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    What's the benefits over a conventional welding beanie?
     
  2. Mar 29, 2021 at 8:30 PM
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    Do you have the Electrical service to run the Syncrowave at full output your looking at 100 amps

    They have High Frequency points with a Spark gap .08 check once and don`t miss with unless your having Issues .

    A bigger Gap is not better.

    If after test welding and you have full output and control.

    You should be able to download a manual at Miller Welds check things out
     
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  3. Mar 29, 2021 at 8:32 PM
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    Much prettier .
     
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    Thank you for that. I downloaded the manual and did check on the points. It seemed very straight forward. I was gonna pull and clean them, then set with a feeler gauge and be done. I won’t have full capability in my garage yet, but I retire in a year and plan on moving this into a larger automotive shop facility. Excellent point though, single phase check, 220V check, 100 amps......didn’t really think that far through it.
     
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    Honestly probably not much. But there is more cushion around the area where the head gear goes so it may be more comfortable over time.

    And this lol
     
  6. Mar 29, 2021 at 11:09 PM
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    In these times of Stimuluses and Tax Returns

    What is the best welder for Tacoma things
    I have been suggested the Hobart MVP210
    but want to double check to be absolutely sure
    before pulling the trigger on such a costly and long-term investment

    Miller seems to do the same thing
    albeit a little nicer
    but for way more cost
    that seems more along the lines of for professional fabrication shops committed to churning out sell-able work repeatedly

    MVP210 pictured on left

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  7. Mar 30, 2021 at 4:19 AM
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    Myself Given the Choice I would take the Hobart over the Miller if the cost was close.

    Given the Work you want to do.

    Outside of Warranty Inverter based machines are very expensive to repair what the New Style 211 is
     
  8. Mar 30, 2021 at 6:21 AM
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    I’ve used both machines. I’ve had good success with Hobart. They aren’t as refined as the Millers and you don’t get the “infinity” adjustment feature on the voltage but I’m not to a point in my welding skill for that to really matter.

    The price difference is substantial enough for it to make a difference. You could also check out the Handler 190 if you don’t need the ability to run 110V and save a little more.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2021 at 6:30 AM
    Scott B.

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    I've always heard that the Hobart and compatible Miller machines were built on the same assembly line.

    The machines are the same, except for a few additional "features" on the Miller boxes.

    Although, now it looks like the Miller machines are in a different case as well.
     
  10. Mar 30, 2021 at 6:32 AM
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    "Best welder for tacoma things" is subjective based on what you want to spend and if you're a hobbyist or a pro. Really any decent 220v welder will work to glue steel together for these trucks. Between those two and for your use the hobart would probably make more sense.

    Me, I like the vulcan welder from harbor freight. It's about the same cost as that hobart and I like that it has autoset. I just turn the dial to whatever thickness I'm welding and it does the settings for me. There are a few people in here that use this welder with nothing but good things to say.

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    Even if that were true, that doesn’t mean they’re comparable products. The quality of components between the two machines could be vastly different, causing the difference in price between manufacturers.
     
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    By being built on the same assembly line, my understanding is they are literally the same machine. Same parts.

    This is what my local dealer told me several years ago when I bought my 211. I can only take his word.
     
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    Here's a good read

    https://toolingfun.com/hobart-vs-miller-welders-mig-one-difference/

    "If you want new and high end tig features go chinese so when it dies you wont care. If you want a nice mig machine go hobart, and if you want a machine that will last 50 years get a used Miller."


     
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    Not necessarily how manufacturing works. The company (Hobart, Miller) sets the specifications they are looking for. If part A cost $99 and part B cost $20 and you assemble two different machines accordingly on the same assembly line, are they equal quality?

    Edit: I'm using this as an analogy. I cannot confirm if they are in fact built by the same assembly line as that would imply the assembly is either outsourced or similar. I'm speaking in generalizations.
     
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    I know how manufacturing works.

    I merely stated what my dealer told me - nothing more. No assumptions.
     
  17. Mar 30, 2021 at 12:02 PM
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    why’d you go Harbor Freight instead of Hobart (similar price)?
     
  18. Mar 30, 2021 at 12:03 PM
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    I like inverter-style welders. Also, the extended warranty is nice if you purchase it. Anything goes wrong you just bring it to the store and walk out with a new one. No need to deal with attempting to get it repaired.
     
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    That was somewhat true till Miller changed the 211 to an Inverter machine.

    A royal pain when our work orders do not say new style or old 211

    The machines were never built on the same line Miller and Hobart are owned by the same parent company I am pretty sure a different building

    About the only real differences in the old style 211 are in the wire feed system Hobart uses Plastic and the tapped voltage
     
  20. Mar 30, 2021 at 2:09 PM
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    When did Miller change the 211 from transformer to inverter?
     

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