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Colorado B.S. Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado' started by Kappes03, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:07 AM
    6P4

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    You're talking about the "long tailpipe" theory.

    It's true that plug-in electric vehicles still need to get energy from somewhere, but it's grossly oversimplifying to say that they're no better than internal combustion.

    The efficiency of a plug-in vehicle depends on the efficiency of the power grid behind it. If you're burning coal to charge your vehicle, that might produce comparable emissions to gas. If you're using a wind turbine to charge it, it's significantly cleaner. The power grid keeps changing to become cleaner. The engine installed in a vehicle doesn't.
     
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  2. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:22 AM
    JasonLee

    JasonLee Hello? I'm a truck.

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    Well said.
     
  3. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:42 AM
    teamhypoxia

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    Yeah! We don't need no stinkin oil....
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    Try to identify and eliminate everything in your life made from/by/with petroleum.
    Good luck.
     
  4. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM
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    Don't forget the the environmental costs from mining and the ever clinching restrictions on emissions for ICE. They are not as far off as you might think

    I heard Toyota and Tesla have entered an engineering sharing agreement to help further both in the EV market. Toyota quality with Tesla programming. Also bits of sharing in driverless tech but that is no fun.
     
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  5. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:56 AM
    alee891

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    Though wind and solar have certainly had an uptick in the last decade, I'm not buying the thought that they are the sources driving a "green" world. Again, I like the idea - but just like any energy source, they also have negative impacts. Furthermore, if you want to match immediate demand of an electric world, it's going to be on the back of fossils.

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  6. Apr 15, 2021 at 11:59 AM
    alee891

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    We in the US are completely blind to global energy consumption. It's a luxury to slap solar panels on our roofs, all the while China's coal machine & radioactive runoff from rare earth mines (for those big ass wind turbines) just keeps plugging away.
     
  7. Apr 15, 2021 at 12:01 PM
    CO MTN Steve

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    Oh we are a long way from even getting a 25% reduction and Natural Gas is still the 24/7/365 "cleanest" way to produce electricity. Months ago I read article on Tesla stock ("the stock is Overvalued") that showed roughly 50M Vehicles are produced a year across the world and in 2020 ~2M of them were EV.

    Utilities are sized to produce electricity for highest demand (Summer Days) and at night or winter huge % of capacity is not used. In theory EV would take up some of this unused % charging overnight.

    But pretty sad to use a pic that has been fact checked. Plus, there are Electric based de-ice systems for wind turbines.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...meme-wind-turbine-de-icing-sweden/6787470002/
     
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  8. Apr 15, 2021 at 12:02 PM
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    Go beyond environmental and look up the costs the raw materials for batteries are doing to humanity in 3rd world countries.
     
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  9. Apr 15, 2021 at 12:05 PM
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    Back to my first point - out of sight, out of mind.
     
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  10. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:04 PM
    teamhypoxia

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    The picture was not photoshopped :confused:

    I didn't post a meme implying that this was in Texas.

    Not entirely sure what you mean about a pic being fact checked. I sounds to me like it's a legitimate picture of fossil fuels being used to maintain a wind turbine. I don't think the helicopter is running on unicorn farts.

    Fossil fuels are used to manufacture the wind turbines damn near everything. I have a friend who helps transport the blades across the country. In addition to the large rig hauling the blade, there are at least three other vehicles involved. There's a pilot vehicle in front, a steersman (steers the rear of the trailer when needed) and a tail gunner. All of those vehicles almost always make the return trip empty.
    None of this stuff happens at all without fossil fuels and mining. Not to mention that if these alternative solutions were economically viable they wouldn't require massive governmental subsidies.

    I did put down a deposit on a Tesla truck. Can I get an autograph from an exploited autistic young woman?
     
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  11. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:30 PM
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    GoldenBrew Insufficient Privilege

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    any recommendations for the go-to person who has a 1/4"x9"x9" piece of steel plate and can welded it to the underside of a trailer jack foot base ? @YamaDirtrider ?? Looking to increase the load distribution surface for stability. TIA.
     
  12. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:33 PM
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  13. Apr 15, 2021 at 1:34 PM
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    You quoted the best team for the job, the jorts are just a bonus.
     
  14. Apr 15, 2021 at 3:50 PM
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    What hasn't been modified?
    ill have to look in a few hours, I used to have some extra 1/4' but its only 8" by idk.
     
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    Oh man should I
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  16. Apr 15, 2021 at 4:14 PM
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    Red Baron Let's call it livabetes, no more die

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    But do you have one of the exclusive patches of that forward thinking style day???!!!

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  17. Apr 15, 2021 at 4:54 PM
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    No
    You never gave me one and I should have one, because it was all inspired by me.:angrygirl:
     
  18. Apr 15, 2021 at 6:19 PM
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    I’ve got a peice of 1/4 x 8x ~16”
     
  19. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:19 PM
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  20. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:23 PM
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    Jose_Dirte Life's a garden, dig it

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    Also I want self driving so I can decide to go to Arizona or California Friday after work plug in the destination go to sleep and wake up there in the morning (obviously, the tech isnt to a point where it's responsible or safe yet to sleep but it'll get there). I do fear us losing the ability to drive them ourselves though because I love driving.
     

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