Tacoma rolls backwards in drive while stopped on a hill?

All this talk about RTFM, Here it is, directly cut and pasted. If your truck is rolling back I would check to make sure I'm not doing any of the items that would cancel it.

 

I'll find a way

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/what-is-your-experience-with-hill-start-assist.459729/

 

No, it's not.

I've owned a dozen cars, trucks and SUVs (and that many more if I count all my wife's cars) with automatic transmissions over the years and not a one of them has ever rolled backwards before going up a hill.

You guys need to stop accepting this as a normal attribute of an automatic transmission.

 

Looks like us OR owner have the worst of it

I appreciate the link . Thanks

 

You’ve never been on stopped on a 30 degree grade. If you had, you wouldn’t be of the same opinion.

 

Probably not in your case, but, two footed drivers drive me nuts! Nothing worse than being behind some on going up hill with brake lights on!

 

Yeah, definitely not my case. I don’t even know how you would know your behind a two footed driver vs just a shitty driver.

I’m just saying when starting from a stop going up a legitimate hill in a automatic I let off the brake while i gas. In a manual, obviously the clutch. I do the same thing wheeling. If you need precision and control on a major incline sometimes that’s what you got to do.

 

This is wrong automatics do roll backwards and that is why they added hill assist . Maybe the dozens of cars you had all had hill assist IDK .

 

Whether they roll back or not... Nor with my skills or procedure, should my truck make such gawd awful noises when wheeling up hill.

 

My old 2011 Nissan Titan would definitely roll back a bit on the boat ramp while the 2017 F150 I had wouldn't roll back on the same boat ramp at all. Of course, now I have to finesse things a lot more at the ramp with the manual transmission, but I manage.

 

You are wrong and you must not understand how TC's work.

 

He also thinks the world is flat. You can’t win with him. Sadly he’s feeding into all the stereotypes ....

 

You stationed out in 29?

 

I am a farmer next to the base.

 

Have been out that way in forever. I always hated the Cholla bushes and there was so many of them in that area. Worse than any cactus that's ever lived.

 

Either that(hill assist) or the cars he's had, had enough torque at idle to overcome gravity and weight of his truck. I have had plenty of vehicles that did not roll back and some mvoed forward. It's all about the amount of torque your engine produces at idle. If you were to take an engine from a Honda S2000 or an old RX7, and mate them to an auto(god forbid), the car would almost certainly roll back in drive due to literally zero torque at idle. On the other hand, you do the same with a big block chevy engine, and you may actually move forward due to lots of low end torque.

I don't think he understands that TC's are fluid based couplers that lock at a certain point. They have to be in order for your automatic not to stall out at idle in drive. Full lock up can occur anywhere from 1200 to 1400 rpm or more. Before that, there is partial fluid lockup, but tons of slippage from the fluid. This keeps the engine from stalling which it would surely do if it was fully locked in gear like a manual. An F350 with a 900 ft lb of torque diesel will not likely roll back since it has so much torque at idle. Smaller engines with low torque at idle will roll back. Put a loaded trailer on that F350 and it will likely roll back as the force of the weight may overcome the torque at idle of that engine.

 

Not enough hydraulic pressure pumping at idle to hold the weight of the vehicle on an incline that's all. It won't harm anything unless you go a long way backward in a forward gear. A slight roll back is fine.

 

It just shows that there are very few new ideas and fights in the 3rd gen section.