General Grabber ATX - Long Term Review and BS

tacoman45 · Apr 2, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] said: ↑

Had a friend with them... they were mud-tire loud, which, I got over having the mud tire noise on my truck back in my early 20s....
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Ha yeah I agree. They are kinda noisy. I'd argue there more of a Mud-AT tire than a traditional AT.

Reluctanse · Apr 4, 2021

I think I promised this a while back... But here is treadwear. I'm at 54k miles.

.225" if you cant read the calipers. Not too shabby!

Hoping I can make it to October with this set... We'll see with how many miles I drive.

Bryanccfshr · Apr 4, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] said: ↑

I think I promised this a while back... But here is treadwear. I'm at 54k miles.

.225" if you cant read the calipers. Not too shabby!

Hoping I can make it to October with this set... We'll see with how many miles I drive.

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That is good to see
I am racking up 25 k a year and have 11 k on my AT2s in SL. Not a dedicated off-roader, more like, there are times when I need to drive in sand, mud and dirt and rock roads for work. Plus these were such a great value for the longevity and utility they provide.

Stanglover · Apr 9, 2021

This is after 30k miles with 5k rotations. So far has been a great tire. Highly recommend.

mikeytacooo · Apr 14, 2021

Islandboy 71 said: ↑

Want to say thank you for the great input got my new tires today.

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what are your wheel specs here?

zoo truck · Apr 15, 2021

Bryanccfshr said: ↑

That is good to see
I am racking up 25 k a year and have 11 k on my AT2s in SL. Not a dedicated off-roader, more like, there are times when I need to drive in sand, mud and dirt and rock roads for work. Plus these were such a great value for the longevity and utility they provide.
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I can tell you those tires work extremely well in deep snow also. Best all around tire i ever had.

TacoOggie · Apr 27, 2021

I was aiming for Toyo AT3's but the ones I ordered were manufactured in Japan, which means they had a generic looking, soft sidewall (the US made Toyo's have deep grooves that look aggressive). I came to TacomaWorld to research other tire options and after reading ya'lls thoughts and seeing your pics for General Grabber ATX tires, I got them instead. Thanks for the posts and pics. Very happy with my Generals. They look and ride great!

dennguy08 · May 4, 2021

Any ideas on the the weight differences with these vs its competition i.e. BFG, Cooper, Hankook?

TacoOggie · May 9, 2021

dennguy08 said: ↑

Any ideas on the the weight differences with these vs its competition i.e. BFG, Cooper, Hankook?
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Discount tire will show the weights. Depends on the ply or rating but I'd look up the size and brands you're interested in on Discount Tire and compare weights.
I picked Generals because they were significantly lighter than Falkens.

turkeycreek29010 · Jun 2, 2021

jeremy5000 said: ↑

I'm running these on my Tacoma and absolutely love them. Finally got to try them in the snow this past week and they did excellent. The worked well on the hard packed snow covered roads as well as the unplowed roads with nearly 20" of snow on the ground. The only disappointment is a decrease in MPG, but that is to be expected. I can answer any questions you guys have on them! I have had them through every off-road terrain at this point and have put about 5000 miles on them already.
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How big of hit to your MPG?

jeremy5000 · Jun 2, 2021

turkeycreek29010 said: ↑

How big of hit to your MPG?
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I noticed about a 1-2mpg difference.

Setherson · Jul 17, 2021

Also wanted to say thanks for the I info and reviews guys. Based on this thread I pulled the trigger on a buy 3 get the fourth free set of grabber ATXs.

Acesolo1! · Jul 30, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] initial post: ↑

TL : DR - Here's my assessment of how the new(ish) General Grabber ATX will wear on our truck, work in highway and rainy conditions, tow, and how well they work in snowy road conditions. It will take me about 2 years to go through this set of tires, during which time I will update this thread periodically with my feedback and experience.

If you want my full rambling explanation, read on!

Hi Frens,

I haven't found a lot of people sharing their experience about this tire, so I thought I would start a post and share mine. The General Grabber isn't a new tire by any means, but the ATX is the latest iteration, and is a pretty recent release. As we go here I'll explain a bit about how I landed on this choice, my particular truck, my needs, and driving habits.

So we'll back up a tiny bit here. I bought my truck in April 2017, a Double Cab Short Bed TRD-Off Road, with manual transmission. It was my first new truck and I'd always wanted a Tacoma crew cab. Very exciting day! Here it is right after I bought it, with a couple obvious and pretty standard upgrades, including a set of 265/75r16 KBro2's - which are a great tire by the way, more on that shortly.

I drive a lot for work, average somewhere around 25-30k miles per year, mostly highway. Part of those miles include passing through the Oregon Coast range on a very regular basis, which is guaranteed to have snow on it at least a few times a year. I do enjoy off-roading, and have had my truck in the woods a few times since I've bought it, but the reality is I don't have much time these days for those activities right now. I also end up towing once in a while, at or near full towing capacity, and have also had a full cargo load in the bed more than once.

That covers my driving habits. Based on that, I have a few requirements for a tire:

Raised white letters - this one is most important, and pure ridiculous vanity. But it is a requirement on this truck. White letter Mafia!

3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated - I want a tire that counts as a "traction device" in the snow, so during those events when I'm crossing passes there's no need for chains. Also in the off chance I can sneak away for a snow wheeling trip it's very nice to have

E-rated - I tow and haul often enough I want the extra margin of safety from a full weight rated tire. Despite what the haters say, I can't tell a difference in the ride quality.

Milage - ideally get at least 60k miles on a set

So that's it, all other tire features are optional for me. The requirements leave a very limited set of options. As you can see above, on the first round I went with the BFGs. They work great. They wear great. In fact, I probably could have gotten another 5k miles on these if I had wanted to. But at around 55k they started getting bouncy and would wander a bit more than I liked. So I pulled the plug on them pretty much right at 60k- again very satisfied with the mileage. I wasn't perfect with getting them rotated by the way, but did rotate them probably 5 times during their life, anywhere between say 5k and 12k miles between.
Here they are on their last day:

Good looking tire, despite what the haters say:

OK so why the Generals? You see my list of requirements above. I think I determined 4 options (might be missing one here but this is what I remember):

BFG's

Cooper AT3s

Hankook ATs

Generals

I wanted to go with something different and I just simply haven't seen these tires around, with one major except, that is honestly also another reason I wanted to go with a General Tire. If you haven't watched any Expedition Overland: https://www.youtube.com/user/ExpeditionOverland I do recommend their stuff. I like the job they did with their show. And that said, General Tire was a sponsor. So the other reason, is voting with my pocket book. Thank you General Tire for sponsoring the XO guys.

Initial reactions to the tires, walking out to my truck this morning after getting them installed:

They look great, very happy with the visual appeal (remember this actually matters to me)

Also, the tread is crazy deep!!

They drive and sound pretty much just as I remember the BFGs did when new - nice and quite, pretty well balanced but maybe not exactly perfect (especially compared to a lighter LT stocky type tire, but fine for my expectations), and pretty stable at highway speeds, for a bigger meaty tread truck tire. Overall pleased with out of the box, but there's not much there as of this moment other than 30 miles of dry pavement.

OK that's enough of my nonsense for now, I'll be sure to keep everyone posted as we progress.

Feel free to BS and discuss among yourselves.
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Did u ever end up going with the so verson of these?were they any less of a bumpy.cloud?

Acesolo1! · Jul 30, 2021

Aldo98229 said: ↑

I’ve had my General ATX 265/70-17 LS on for 3,000 miles. They are as quiet and comfortable as the KO2s I had on my Wrangler. The Generals do pretty well in the rain, snow and the trail as well.

After having them for awhile. Have u had any issues? Trouble staying balanced?? Bumpy ride? Vibrations ? Im really considering gstting the 265/65/17 atx in sl or the mickey thompson deegan 38 at in e load. Not sure which to go with ...i hear the atx is great but a little mushy cornering and has a bumpy ride,some say trouble staying blanced and the deegan 38 at people say its not that great in the wet sometimes .. I'm assuming once the tread weara down on the atx a little that cornering would feel less mushy? And im assuming the deegan 38 at might be a little rough riding if I get it in 3 load rating ....all thoughts are appreciated. Just ordered icon rebound rims.will be getting tires to put on them in a week or two ...need some input ..id like a vibrarion free smooth ride with all year traction. And light offroad use .

I definitely recommend them.

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Acesolo1! · Jul 30, 2021

Setherson said: ↑

Also wanted to say thanks for the I info and reviews guys. Based on this thread I pulled the trigger on a buy 3 get the fourth free set of grabber ATXs.

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Any issies with them?how do they ride? Did u get sl or e rated?

Crgrey42 · Jul 30, 2021

Anyone have balancing issues with these after use? My load E tires have 40k, no chopping and well rotated, but balance issues. Little shake in the steering wheel so I had them rebalanced, but the shop wasn't able to remedy.

NorrinRadd · Jul 30, 2021

Reluctanse[OP] said: ↑

Anyone else running these have any experience to share?
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Love mine, I got the AT2 not the ATX. They are pretty sticky in the snow/ice and very quiet at highway speeds, plus stable at over 100 (shhh!) I replaced the factory tires right when I bought the truck, so in other news, i have a set of brand new factory tires in the garage for sale...lol

dbtx · Jul 30, 2021

Got a set of ATX installed in 265/75R16 E load on stock OR wheels. Quieter than my couple year old Cooper Discoverer AT3 on my Trooper. Took them out for a quick spin in the mountains, pretty pleased so far but they did retain a lot of gravel. Was spitting stones out the whole 70 mi highway drive home.

Junkhead · Jul 30, 2021

dbtx said: ↑

Got a set of ATX installed in 265/75R16 E load on stock OR wheels. Quieter than my couple year old Cooper Discoverer AT3 on my Trooper. Took them out for a quick spin in the mountains, pretty pleased so far but they did retain a lot of gravel. Was spitting stones out the whole 70 mi highway drive home.

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My KO2s retain a lot of gravel too.

These areas are in front of my rear wheels, thats not dirt or anything, all rock chips.

I’m a KO2s fan but thinking of trying the ATX next. I like how it has more siping and deeper thread.

Acesolo1! · Jul 30, 2021

dbtx said: ↑

Got a set of ATX installed in 265/75R16 E load on stock OR wheels. Quieter than my couple year old Cooper Discoverer AT3 on my Trooper. Took them out for a quick spin in the mountains, pretty pleased so far but they did retain a lot of gravel. Was spitting stones out the whole 70 mi highway drive home.

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No balancing issues?

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