No start, no crank, no voltage to starter relay

If you have power to the Y/G wire at the starter. The truck should crank.
Best I remember, the immobilizer works on the fuel side. The truck should crank. It will not start if you have an immobilizer problem? But it should crank.

I am going with, Yes.
You have a starter problem

 

Just watched that video, thanks. What a pain!

 

Some guys say it’s possible to get out with out taking anything else apart.
You just have to keep trying different ways until it comes out.

 

Good job OP I think you are on the right track.

 

I watched 2 or 3 videos on youtube. Nothing about removing any other parts or disassembling the starter was mentioned.

 

I did a solenoid rebuild on my starter a few years ago and didn't remove anything. Of course I have a 2.7 liter 4 cylinder Prerunner...

 

I read somewhere, probably here, issue with starter removal with 4wd. The front driveshaft in the way or something.

 

@Gunshot-6A
You had a starter issue...

 

@caribe makaira
Incase this is a wiring/fuse issue. Maybe you can help.

 

Yes if it starts after giving it a tap I'd still replace it, but it can help to confirm your troubleshooting efforts. Usually the contact on the plunger is what ends up getting worn and not allowing full voltage to the starter motor once the plunger pulls in. Sometimes, you can even just remove that contact and burnish it and it will bring new life to it for several years. A rebuild kit is cheap enough maybe rebuild yours and use the Amazon one in the interim.

No idea on the key sorry.

 

Do you hope to get to one key? You might have to buy three new locks. You *might* be able to find a locksmith to re-key the door locks to the new ignition key but I do think it's dealer territory. There are some DIY tips to adding key fobs to the ECU. Lots of button pushing, this is one example. I'd try to add the fob back first. Find the instructions for your model year.

 

Yeah, good point. I´m gonna be under there anyway today to remove it so I can try that. Will be an Easter egg hunt to find my tools between where I´ve moved and my hangar 50 miles away. Half here, half there...sorta like my mind, come to think of it. Below is the airplane I built from plans several years ago.

Regarding the key, I have already talked with a locksmith and yes, dealers don´t do that. I´ll look into the fob stuff. Thanks!

 

NICE. I can't imagine the patience required for a project like that.

 

You need zero to start but will learn plenty along the way. Took six years, didn't keep track of the hours, but prolly 15-20/wk.

 

Crawled underneath, rapped on both the solenoid and starter a couple times and BINGO! Started right up. Still not sure if I can replace the starter myself, but at least now I can drive to a shop. I don't plan on driving anyplace I'm not willing to be stranded at, but will this likely start like this for awhile??

 

Whether it will continue to start by knocking on the starter is hard to say. It’s like flipping a coin.

I have faith in you man.
You can replace the stater yourself.

 

When the starter fails like this, does it short or act like a giant resistor?

 

To an extent Yes. Depends on how the starter has failed. In most cases like the OP, it is the solenoid contacts that have failed. Because you are energizing the control side of the solenoid. It will draw a small amount of power.

But it’s nothing near the draw that a weak battery, frozen starter, or locked up engine would draw.
The high draw usually occurs when the starter bindex engages the flywheel/flex plate. But can’t turn the engine over.

@Jimmyh can probably tell us more, with a better explanation than I gave above.

 

neither. It will just be the load of the bendix solenoid. The starter motor itself does not energize. So it’s a very small load drawn

 

More than likely what happened when you hit the starter with the hammer is you caused the Solenoid plunger to move a bit which completed the circuit to the starter motor windings. As mentioned above the draw on the solenoid is small, but if the plunger is stuck ( increases current draw ) and you hold the key in the start position it will burn out the solenoid coil windings due to increased current from the plunger not going into the coil center. But just normally cycling the key to start would have no ill effects.

Resistor. If it were a short it would blow fuses and start fires...