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Taco PRO Owners: Interested in a spring upgrade for front?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ryan at Eibach, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. May 18, 2021 at 6:17 AM
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    TacomaGuy7878

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    I don’t think it’s a Eibach conspiracy to sell worse springs than the one’s
    they originally developed so your pro gets a 1.3 inch lift but it suckso_O
     
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  2. May 18, 2021 at 6:30 AM
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    No. I want to get 1-1.5" of lift while staying within the design limits of the OEM shocks, which Eibach has done specifically with these springs. They didn't take 18 months to design, test, and produce because they want to take our money.
     
  3. May 18, 2021 at 7:46 AM
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    I've been riding on a set of the test springs since Feb. Not a downgrade in my opinion. And Eibach made the OEM springs for the Pro.
     
  4. May 18, 2021 at 8:12 AM
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    Talked to Eibach... no springs in inventory. These are getting made in Germany and they don't see them coming till November.
     
  5. May 18, 2021 at 8:18 AM
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    Well that's confusing...

    C002132E-30B1-45CA-AC82-EFFA1A79C6D9.jpg
     
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  6. May 18, 2021 at 8:19 AM
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    They roll the springs here in the US and in Germany. These are coming from Germany...
     
  7. May 18, 2021 at 8:22 AM
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    You'll notice that screenshot does not say "Made in USA and Germany". Either your contact is mistaken or Eibach is knowingly advertising falsely.
     
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  8. May 18, 2021 at 8:25 AM
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    Has anyone checked these out yet instead of waiting for Eibach? I am tempted to go through toytech instead.
     
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  9. May 18, 2021 at 8:29 AM
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    With the 2-2.5" lift in the front that these give you, you would need to replace the UCA's. The Eibach only gives you 1-1.5"... just depends on how tall you want to go I guess. Those would fit the bill though to keep the stock Fox shocks.
     
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  10. May 18, 2021 at 8:36 AM
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    It depends on what you're trying to do. I'm just trying to get back to around stock height with my bumper and winch, ideally without having to spend a ton of money and swap my whole suspension or just putting in a spacer lift.
     
  11. May 18, 2021 at 8:39 AM
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    Agreed, that's why I wanted to go with Eibach.

    I cant find any reviews or anyone who has installed the toytec springs. I'm not really looking to upgrade UCA's, but more so curious if anyone is actually running these/considering them.
     
  12. May 18, 2021 at 9:01 AM
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    I’m no expert on lifts by any means but I was under the impression that 2-2.5 inches of lift would be working outside of the OEM Fox shocks limits? It would be nice to hear something from Eibach to clear up any of this info/release dates/etc. :thumbsup: @mark@eibach
     
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  13. May 18, 2021 at 9:16 AM
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    I almost like this solution better if the eibach springs really are just increasing the length of the spring and not the spring rate. I know many of us aren't actually looking for a lift, but rather to just bring the height back closer to stock after adding skids, bumpers, sliders, etc. The toytech springs increasing the rate to 700 is promising.

    That being said... If the toytech lift really does provide over 2 inches of lift then that may be a bit much for my liking. I'd also be interested to find out some additional info on the toytech kit. I'm curious how they made them compatible across all '17-'21 Pro models -- those springs look like they're the '17-'19 style.
     
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  14. May 18, 2021 at 9:21 AM
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    this is what I’m looking for too
     
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    It replaces the spring perch with a flat one.

    I personally have a few concerns with the Toytec setup, not that my opinion is worth a crap. Everyone needs to decide for themselves.
    1) 2-2.5" of lift probably needs new UCAs
    2) the shock valving is different between model years, this is a one size fits all solution
    3) that's a steep price considering 1 and 2 and the fact that Eibach's setup is less then $300, Westcott's is $350-$380 (depending on MY)

    But, with that said, Toytec's lift seems to be available now, and that is huge.

    Bottom line, I'm glad to see companies are finally addressing our part of the market! Happy modding!
     
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  16. May 18, 2021 at 9:37 AM
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    While I think they would still "work just fine", it would not be optimal and I am guessing that toytech did not bring pros in house to run tests to make sure the springs performed correctly.


    Looks like they come with a replacement perch as well that would convert the 2020+ springs to 2017-2019. This for one shows that they did not have OEM design in mind as they are making a single solution to cover both versions. Eibach took the time to create 2 different spring sets depending on the year of your suspension.
     
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  17. May 18, 2021 at 10:11 AM
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    Yeah.
    I'd be hesitant to move the ride height position of the OEM shocks more than an inch or so. Raise it an inch, and it's that much closer to hitting the "catch" zones on drop, and further away from the "bump" zones on compression. If the stroke on the fronts is 4.5" to 5" (based on the best info I could find), that's moving the center position at least 20% of the stroke with just an inch lift. Go 2 inches, and you don't have much drop left, plus you are way outside what the zones were designed for.
     
  18. May 18, 2021 at 11:08 AM
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    From Eibach;

    "Aaron,
    We are still waiting on 2021 Updates, so unfortunately we can't confirm if the '21 model year is the same just yet.

    - Team Eibach"
     
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  19. May 18, 2021 at 12:49 PM
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    This is a clusterfuck, I'm out.
     
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  20. May 19, 2021 at 9:28 AM
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    Just talked to Eibach. Looks like it was a glitch. These won't be available till November.
     

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