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POWERTHIRST Tune by Downhill Dragon Tuning

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by DownhillDragon, May 8, 2021.

  1. May 8, 2021 at 9:29 PM
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    DownhillDragon

    DownhillDragon [OP] Well-Known Member

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    POWERTHIRST Tuned - My Custom OVTune SSO Slimline Bumper with Stage 2 Kit + BajaDesigns 20" Light bar with Amber Backlight + Smittybilt Winch x2o 10,000lb Synthetic CaliRaisedLED Step Edition Rock Sliders SUSPENSION FRONT A.D.S. - 2.5 Adjustable Dampening Remote Resi Fronts Dirt King Upper Control Arms SUSPENSION REAR A.D.S - 2.5 Smoothie Piggy Back "Rear" Shock With Compression Adjuster Deaver Leaf Pack Cab Mount Relocate by Triple-C Chop Shop, Lago Vista, TX Nitro Gear 5.29 BFG KM3 35x12.5x17 Fuel Rebel6 17" Wheels + Full-size Spare + Rhino-Rack Spare Wheel Strap 4x Rigid Cube Ditch Lights + Cali Raised Ditch Light Hood Mount Brackets + Cali Raised Ditch Light Extension Brackets + 3x Cali Raised Switches + Light Switch Mount Bracket Snugtop Camper Shell with Carpeted Ceiling and Mounting Tracks Prinsu Top Rack and Cab Rack Hi-lift Jack + Hi-lift Jack Mount on roof DEFEND INDUST Recovery Traction Tracks (knockoff Maxtrax) Trimax ST30 Trimaflex Spare Tire Cable Lock (Round Key) 36" x 12mm K&N Intake Canvas 270 RV Awning Rooftop Sun Shelter + Prinsu Awning Brackets Fire Extinguisher w/mount Campbell Hausfeld FP209499AV - 3 Gallon Air Compressor
    With over 100 TX trucks loving this custom OV tune, and having been tested against some of the best tunes out there (won't mention any names), it's finally time to start my own thread!

    POWERTHIRST has been built ground-up over the last 7 months, re-tuning my 2017 TRD Pro about twice a week, poking, prodding, adjusting, and is finally what I consider a finished and awesome product.

    This thread is primarily for providing feedback, asking questions, setting up franchise opps for tuners to use this to expand their offerings, and general BS about tuning and offroading.

    5/8/2021 - I'm currently looking for some people who know their trucks, have tried other tunes, log their data, and drive a shit ton, to test it out and give feedback. If that's you, Post here or PM me!

    6/20/2021 - We've officially hit over 200 Tacomas running my tunes here in Texas!!! I'd been holding out as long as possible, but with the increase in credit costs, the price for in-person tuning officially goes up to $300 starting 7/1/2021! Price for a single license remains at $100. Price for PowerThirst Licensed Tuners also remains at $75/vehicle, capped at 20 vehicles, then free after that!

    5/10/2022 - We're sitting at well over 300 Tacomas running the PowerThirst tune, and with the increases to credit and R&D costs, in-person tuning (here in TX) is $350. Individual licenses are only $150 per vehicle if you have your own equipment. Let me know if you need something custom!
     
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  2. May 8, 2021 at 9:58 PM
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    BrettsMac08

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    Cautiously optimistic about this one, so I’ll be following along!

    I’d be down to test it (04B04) but I’m currently waiting for the VF “Flash N’ Log” licensing to drop hopefully next week so I can flash again (OG Flash Kit owner). Currently only on 2.0 base but looking to spice it up. I’ll be trying some of the more popular/mainstream/whatever ya want to call them tunes that are available here and have been tried and tested for a while but I have no problem pitting them against each other once I can finally flash again. I got that itch man!

    Moved back to iOS from Android and I just don’t get to flash things as often, so instead of flashing roms, why not my trucks ECU? Haha.

    Best of luck to you sir! Have you been collaborating with other tuners around here? And have tunes built up for different gears, octanes, tire sizes etc? Just curious, the OP could perhaps use a little expanding on what yours offers that others do not or what the focus is of the tune. Sounds like performance above all else? Where as some are more focused on MPG, towing, etc.
     
  3. May 9, 2021 at 12:40 AM
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  4. May 9, 2021 at 8:34 AM
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    POWERTHIRST Tuned - My Custom OVTune SSO Slimline Bumper with Stage 2 Kit + BajaDesigns 20" Light bar with Amber Backlight + Smittybilt Winch x2o 10,000lb Synthetic CaliRaisedLED Step Edition Rock Sliders SUSPENSION FRONT A.D.S. - 2.5 Adjustable Dampening Remote Resi Fronts Dirt King Upper Control Arms SUSPENSION REAR A.D.S - 2.5 Smoothie Piggy Back "Rear" Shock With Compression Adjuster Deaver Leaf Pack Cab Mount Relocate by Triple-C Chop Shop, Lago Vista, TX Nitro Gear 5.29 BFG KM3 35x12.5x17 Fuel Rebel6 17" Wheels + Full-size Spare + Rhino-Rack Spare Wheel Strap 4x Rigid Cube Ditch Lights + Cali Raised Ditch Light Hood Mount Brackets + Cali Raised Ditch Light Extension Brackets + 3x Cali Raised Switches + Light Switch Mount Bracket Snugtop Camper Shell with Carpeted Ceiling and Mounting Tracks Prinsu Top Rack and Cab Rack Hi-lift Jack + Hi-lift Jack Mount on roof DEFEND INDUST Recovery Traction Tracks (knockoff Maxtrax) Trimax ST30 Trimaflex Spare Tire Cable Lock (Round Key) 36" x 12mm K&N Intake Canvas 270 RV Awning Rooftop Sun Shelter + Prinsu Awning Brackets Fire Extinguisher w/mount Campbell Hausfeld FP209499AV - 3 Gallon Air Compressor
    So yes, I collaborated early on with @Mooseditty17 and @PapaRee, but have been just going off on my own the last 3 months or so. Head down, re-tuning and testing. Originally was going for performance, but switching to 5.29 gears was a BIG motivator to get MPGs back, and I've finally got it dialed for a beautiful balance. I know some of the maps I did for low-end torque and shift points are unique, and that's where POWERTHIRST really shines.

    Tune is set up for Reg or Prem (but focus on regular since premium is $$ AF here in TX for some reason), and ALL ECUs including the MTs. Can do all the normal tweaks: gears, tires, AGM, GearLock, etc...
     
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  5. May 9, 2021 at 8:42 AM
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    DownhillDragon [OP] Well-Known Member

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    POWERTHIRST Tuned - My Custom OVTune SSO Slimline Bumper with Stage 2 Kit + BajaDesigns 20" Light bar with Amber Backlight + Smittybilt Winch x2o 10,000lb Synthetic CaliRaisedLED Step Edition Rock Sliders SUSPENSION FRONT A.D.S. - 2.5 Adjustable Dampening Remote Resi Fronts Dirt King Upper Control Arms SUSPENSION REAR A.D.S - 2.5 Smoothie Piggy Back "Rear" Shock With Compression Adjuster Deaver Leaf Pack Cab Mount Relocate by Triple-C Chop Shop, Lago Vista, TX Nitro Gear 5.29 BFG KM3 35x12.5x17 Fuel Rebel6 17" Wheels + Full-size Spare + Rhino-Rack Spare Wheel Strap 4x Rigid Cube Ditch Lights + Cali Raised Ditch Light Hood Mount Brackets + Cali Raised Ditch Light Extension Brackets + 3x Cali Raised Switches + Light Switch Mount Bracket Snugtop Camper Shell with Carpeted Ceiling and Mounting Tracks Prinsu Top Rack and Cab Rack Hi-lift Jack + Hi-lift Jack Mount on roof DEFEND INDUST Recovery Traction Tracks (knockoff Maxtrax) Trimax ST30 Trimaflex Spare Tire Cable Lock (Round Key) 36" x 12mm K&N Intake Canvas 270 RV Awning Rooftop Sun Shelter + Prinsu Awning Brackets Fire Extinguisher w/mount Campbell Hausfeld FP209499AV - 3 Gallon Air Compressor
    Some recent reviews:

    Brady on 04B04:
    "Tune so far is great! Took it camping up at Lake Buchanan and it did fantastically on the HWY. Fully loaded bed and was able to compare it to a camping trip I did a few weeks ago. Saw about 3MPG more on the freeway. No complaints or recommendations so far, just an awesome tune"


    Chris with a MT (04B12):

    manual screenshot.jpg
     
  6. May 9, 2021 at 8:42 AM
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    Guess you could delete the OV-Tine from your vehicle info and replace it with POWERTHIRST Tuned
     
  7. May 9, 2021 at 9:26 AM
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    What's the schedule to make this available and for how much?
     
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  8. May 13, 2021 at 5:07 AM
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    POWERTHIRST Tuned - My Custom OVTune SSO Slimline Bumper with Stage 2 Kit + BajaDesigns 20" Light bar with Amber Backlight + Smittybilt Winch x2o 10,000lb Synthetic CaliRaisedLED Step Edition Rock Sliders SUSPENSION FRONT A.D.S. - 2.5 Adjustable Dampening Remote Resi Fronts Dirt King Upper Control Arms SUSPENSION REAR A.D.S - 2.5 Smoothie Piggy Back "Rear" Shock With Compression Adjuster Deaver Leaf Pack Cab Mount Relocate by Triple-C Chop Shop, Lago Vista, TX Nitro Gear 5.29 BFG KM3 35x12.5x17 Fuel Rebel6 17" Wheels + Full-size Spare + Rhino-Rack Spare Wheel Strap 4x Rigid Cube Ditch Lights + Cali Raised Ditch Light Hood Mount Brackets + Cali Raised Ditch Light Extension Brackets + 3x Cali Raised Switches + Light Switch Mount Bracket Snugtop Camper Shell with Carpeted Ceiling and Mounting Tracks Prinsu Top Rack and Cab Rack Hi-lift Jack + Hi-lift Jack Mount on roof DEFEND INDUST Recovery Traction Tracks (knockoff Maxtrax) Trimax ST30 Trimaflex Spare Tire Cable Lock (Round Key) 36" x 12mm K&N Intake Canvas 270 RV Awning Rooftop Sun Shelter + Prinsu Awning Brackets Fire Extinguisher w/mount Campbell Hausfeld FP209499AV - 3 Gallon Air Compressor
    The plan is to offer License the tune for tuners who want to offer it to customers. Simple pricing strategy: You charge $300 for the tune, you keep $200 of that, send the other $100 to me for the use.

    In a sense, yes. This would be a replacement (and would over-write) either the stock maps or OVTune or whatever tune you have on the truck at the moment.
     
  9. May 13, 2021 at 5:30 AM
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    Wait. Is the butt dyno the only place this is measured?
     
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  10. May 14, 2021 at 11:55 AM
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    So only for licensed "tuners"? How much to license?
    What kind of gains and how did you measure?
     
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  11. May 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM
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    If I were going to do a tune, it would be this one based on the name alone. The college YouTube nostalgia is real.
     
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  12. May 15, 2021 at 9:49 AM
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    I don’t think you understood my sarcasm. I was trolling because under your vehicle into you say your Tacoma is OVTuned. I’m thinking you should change that for starters :boink:
     
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  13. May 15, 2021 at 1:42 PM
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    The dyno appt is getting set up, to compare: stock vs OVTune2.0 vs KDMAX 6.0 vs POWERTHIRST 2.0. I am def looking forward to posting the logs.
     
  14. May 15, 2021 at 1:46 PM
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    Fair enough haha. Updated!
     
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    So how would the tuning file(s) access work? If it's $300 for licensing the tune, $200 for the "tuner" and $100 for the creator (you), how will the tunes be provisioned?
     
  16. May 20, 2021 at 8:10 PM
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    Since there's currently no way to 'vin lock' tunes, and that sounds like a huge PITA, getting to know the people licensing the tune and trusting them to be honest when they flash tacos seems like the clear solution. plus, there will always be people needing something weird ass combinations, like stock gears and 37s, where I'd have to send a new file, so tuners would just let me know what they need as we go.
     
  17. May 20, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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    If you need a tester I have tested lots of tunes from all different guys. Logs and all.

    just throwin it out there.
     
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  18. May 20, 2021 at 8:32 PM
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    Why are you tuning 04b12? Should definitely update to 04b14..
     
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  19. May 20, 2021 at 8:38 PM
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    Chris from that review got tuned back on 3/28/2021 at my first tuning event in Houston. At that point, I hadn't ported my tune to any of the MTs, and there was a basically a line out the door, so I had to port it to his ECU asap while he waited. Wasn't the optimal situation, so I just ported it to the ECU calibration he had in a pinch. I've since ported PowerThirst to 04B14, and I'm actually hoping Chris can show up to the Houston event this Sunday to get the newest update!
     
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  20. May 20, 2021 at 8:40 PM
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    Gotcha. Just making sure you aren’t wasting time on old ecus :thumbsup: updating is definitely worthwhile on the MT
     
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