Payload and Haul Question

I wonder if the kindly ol’ insurance company would have this same kinda attitude and be super understanding should something happen while your driving around grossly overweight.

 

Lol being ignored from a guy with a few posts don't carry much weight lol.. if you get the joke.

 

You would have to be pretty fat. There's a SF built in and I seriously doubt many people exceed it.
Everything designed by man has a safety factor. Elevators are like 12:1. Most are like 4:1. Why? Because normal humans are ignorant of engineering principles and don't pay attention even if their lives are at stake because they don't even know their lives are at stake because... math. Math is a game changer for most humans.

 

^fixed that for ya.

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Just for record, 2500 lbs of hard wood flooring. Prob another 350-400 lbs in the truck which would include me, some tools and materials.

 

Hmmm. Imagine that. And the truck didn't break in half causing the world to come to and end. Lol

 

So it sounds like they should quit publishing weight limits and we should just load our trucks up with crap till they hit the bump stops and call it good? I learn so much from Tacoma World.

 

I'll just throw this in. There's more to the capacity concern than weight. There is also concern for safe operation of the braking system.

 

Truck didn’t even break a sweat. One point I was on a highway and thought I better keep my speed around 50 MPH with this load. I looked down and I was doing 70! I of course slowed it down, but the truck had no sway or issues with the run. It was the second run in two days.

 

No one is saying to haul or pull over size loads on a daily bases. Wouldn't condone that. But Load isn’t just all about weight. Load distribution plays a big role in how the truck will handle and stops. Also distance, how far do you drive with the load. I wouldn’t go cross country with a lager load, but 40-50 miles sounds fine. But these trucks aren’t made of cardboard and paper. They can handle a properly loaded up load every now and again.

I used to drive a tow trucks and a flatbed, so I am also aware of how to drive and stop when pulling or hauling a load. Probably also helpful.

 

A motto I try to live by is to use the right tool for the job. U-haul trailers are dirt cheap to rent for heavy loads and limit the wear and tear on the truck. But that's just me. You do you. It's all good.

 

Fuck it. It'll be fine. Trailer was 13k ish. Had to tow to another farm. It's basically a rolling storage unit. Loaded to the brim with hardwood and furniture.

 

Saw a Taco pulling what looked like at least a 2k lb trailer with a overland rack/tent on it. up the pass and it passed me at over 75mph. Was impressed considering the pass hits 11,500 ft and he was going up the steep side.

 

Yeah, these Otto/Atkinson frankenstein engines are known for robust performance at 75 + mph hauling thousands of pounds of gear up 11,500 ft mountain passes. No issues at all. Just gotta know "how to drive" ;-)

 

These threads always amuse me.

It always devolves into the three battle lines of "adhere to the sticker," "shouldn't hurt for short hauls," and "the sticker is just a nanny suggestion."

I'm in the "it'll be fine until it isn't" camp. Meaning 99% of the time, shit won't go wrong if you're overloaded, but the catch is that it's almost impossible to correct on the 1% chance that it does go wrong.

Overloading doesn't break your truck, it just eliminates your margin of error. That's why I stick to the sticker.

 

well, he passed me. I even commented to the wife, he must have it floored, lol.

 

It's all fun and games until the tail wags the dog!

 

I recently hauled multiple loads of brick, block and mortar to the landfill located 30 miles away. The loads were always TARPED.

My weigh in was around 56-5700 lb range. Tare weigh out was at 4400 lbs. Each haul was 12-1300 lbs.

When the hauling was done, I had transported a bit over 10,000 lbs.

The rear suspension was compressed around 2 inches. Truck was a little low in the rear. Handling was a little sluggish on acceleration, braking was longer distance. All normal. All expected.

FWIW, the limits are defined for multiple reasons like Federal Regulation (FMVSS), legal, design, performance, safety, defense against ignorance.


A quote from my father, "Son, you can always make something idiot proof. But after a while, he will get help. Now, you have 2 idiots." Many responses in this thread remind me of the 1st idiot getting help.

 

My engineer friends always phrase it like this:

"Idiot proofing something just breeds a better class of idiot."

 

Many folks compete for the Darwin Award running overloaded.