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“Toyota Reveals Plans For An Electric Truck”

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles (EVs)' started by a400ryan, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. Jul 5, 2021 at 3:11 PM
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    stevesnj

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    I thought this is why people bought a mid sized instead of a full sized truck? Seems like it meets your needs. Why people trash others for having a 5 foot bed is very weird.
     
  2. Jul 5, 2021 at 3:13 PM
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    To do that, they would have to get away from the whole concept of "charging." How about replacing the batteries, on an exchange basis? You would drive into a battery exchange station and swap batteries, for a fee. The station would recharge them and have them ready for the next customer. This is similar to the way Pony Express stations would have mounts ready for the riders. (All the vehicle manufacturers would have to agree on standardized batteries, or at least on just a few types, for this to work.) But if you had the time, you could still recharge them yourself.
     
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  3. Jul 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM
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    Battery exchange stations are a thing in China or South Korea I forget where, for fleet vehicles, Taxi's etc. They seem to work well. 10-15 exchange.
     
  4. Jul 5, 2021 at 3:54 PM
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    That is not really recycling, you are not taking carbon out of the carbon cycle. It will be released back to the atmosphere, once the plant dies and decays, or is eaten by something, or burns. Yeah some carbon is sequestered into living plant material, but unless the forest in continually allowed to grow in size, it will soon reach an equilibrium where it absorbs and releases similar amounts of CO2. This is especially true of young forests that do not have layers and layers of decaying organic matter that seals away some of the carbon (which over millennia becomes coal).

    To make plants/trees a way to recycle CO2, the plant material would need to be harvested and they buried in such a way that it doesn't decay and release CO2, like being buried under permafrost (or burry it very deep so that CO2 cannot react to the surface). There are proposals to burry excess corn in abandoned coal mines, rather than using it for making bioethanol. But we would need to burry tremendous amounts of plant waste, with basically zero monetary return. So it would need to be funded by the government.
     
  5. Jul 5, 2021 at 4:13 PM
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    Here’s some facts, electricity to charge EVs doesn’t some from nowhere. California shut down a nuclear plant and most of the power generation replacing that comes from natural gas plants which has resulted in an increase of air pollution in the state.
     
  6. Jul 5, 2021 at 4:40 PM
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    Here are some more facts. If you replaced all gas cars with EV and then powered than entirely with electricity generated by fossil fuels, the overall emissions would still be lower since electric motors are +90% efficient while ICE are 20-30% efficient.
     
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  7. Jul 5, 2021 at 4:42 PM
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    This might work now. But what’s going to happen when 40-50% of cars on the road are EVs that need to spend 1-2hrs to get charged and the ones with out even longer

    Hell it takes 5 mins to fill up a car, and on a holiday weekend most gas stations can have a 1-2 car wait.

    The exchange could work but may have to redesign how the batteries are stored and accessed?
     
  8. Jul 5, 2021 at 4:45 PM
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    It won't be until the year 2040-2050 before America is even close to 50% market saturation in EV's. right now it's 1.8% after 9 years of Tesla, but the number of EV manufacturers is increasing. Bottom line. Nothing to worry about. Infrastructure plans are coming to help. Well not to Texas.
     
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  9. Jul 5, 2021 at 4:56 PM
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  10. Jul 5, 2021 at 5:00 PM
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    I drove a Chevy Bolt the other day.The torque pulled the wheel out of my hands when I mashed the go pedal. Face facts, we will have more EV's each day but I think it will be many years before there are nothing but EV's and no ICE vehicles on the road.
     
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    That's pretty alpha, no doubt. I bet you could do that in a Subaru outback while sipping a Starbucks latte.
     
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    I would argue an auto trans is for girls also. Seems to be about the same logic.
     
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  13. Jul 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM
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    True. As well as AC and power windows.
     
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    You obviously have lived a short and sheltered life.
     
  16. Jul 5, 2021 at 6:08 PM
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    I'd rock an electric Taco any day!:burnrubber:
     
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    Awww, so cute. Alpha? No. That's just how I roll. 'Course I ain't rushing to Walmart when they get a shipment of extra small condoms. Now sit down son, the grownups are talking.
     
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  18. Jul 5, 2021 at 6:14 PM
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    You need an F350. And a shrink.
     
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    What do you think happens to the carbon once the tree dies? How come CO2 levels rose from 300 PPM to 420 PPM since 1950s if carbon recycling by photosynthesis is the answer.

    BTW, that diagram is incorrect. O2 released by plants through photosynthesis is liberated from water, not CO2.
     
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    The wood would be used in a best case scenario, like for lumber and such.

    As for the excellent diagram, is it or is it not correct that trees take in CO2, store carbon and give off O2?

    Who cares HOW it is done? Trees are AWESOME by the way. We need more of them.
     
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