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“Toyota Reveals Plans For An Electric Truck”

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles (EVs)' started by a400ryan, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. Jul 6, 2021 at 3:10 AM
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    LMFAO What happens to the carbon when the tree dies?!?! Carbon is in almost everything, it isn't poison. I guess everyone else in the entire world is wrong about photosynthesis and you're right.
     
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  2. Jul 6, 2021 at 3:31 AM
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    Just wait until they start taxing you based on your mileage, they will need a tax to replace the current gas tax to "maintain" the roads.
     
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    An F350 might be necessary if he really feels the need to bring dick size into the equation to talk people down. :rofl:
     
  4. Jul 6, 2021 at 5:11 AM
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    You omniscient?
    I have a working orchard and a 5ft bed is fine for what I need a truck for.
    I contemplated getting a Tundra, but after watching a 4dr Tundra spend 10 min trying pull into a tight parking spot where my minivan had been, I decided that buying a bigger truck "just in case I ever need it" was stupid.
    DCSB Taco will do OK for what I need a truck for: mulch, fertilizer, lime, soil, saplings, rolls of fencing and T-posts, and towing a trailer with a lawnmower or a rental ditch digger.
    All the while allowing me to have an easy to drive and park vehicle and take family to town.
     
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    Caught up on the thread. Is Golfindia a TW version of Gecko45 of GlockTalk fame, ie a professional troller?
     
  6. Jul 6, 2021 at 7:21 AM
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    Where did I say it is poison? The point is you cannot recycle CO2 by photosynthesis because once the tree dies and rots, gets eaten or burns, it is released back as CO2. Only way for that carbon to be taken out of the carbon cycle is dead tree truing into coal, which only happens under very specific conditions. That is why CO2 rose from 300ppm in 1950s to 420ppm today while plants continently photosynthesized.

    Yeah most people don't understand how photosynthesis or carbon sequestering works, most likely you don't as well based on the previous post.
     
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    They'll just tax you by your cars registration. Think 1100-1200 a year to start.
     
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    I guess that makes sense if your understanding of science comes from Al Gore
     
  9. Jul 6, 2021 at 8:27 AM
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    The international research team, led by Jean-Francois Bastin of ETH-Zurich in Switzerland, used direct measurements of forest cover around the world to create a model for estimating Earth’s forest restoration potential. They found Earth’s ecosystems could support another 900 million hectares (2.2 billion acres) of forests, 25 percent more forested area than we have now. By planting more than a half trillion trees, the authors say, we could capture about 205 gigatons of carbon (a gigaton is 1 billion metric tons), reducing atmospheric carbon by about 25 percent. That’s enough to negate about 20 years of human-produced carbon emissions at the current rate, or about half of all carbon emitted by humans since 1960. The study attracted worldwide attention, as well as some criticism within the science community.

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    “Planting a billion hectares of trees won’t be easy,” he said. “It would require a massive undertaking. If we follow the paper’s recommendations, reforesting an area the size of the United States and Canada combined (1 to 2 billion hectares) could take between one and two thousand years, assuming we plant a million hectares a year and that each hectare contains at least 50 to 100 trees to create an appropriate treetop canopy cover.”

    Even once the trees are planted, says Saatchi, it will take them about a century to reach maturity. Most forests in the United States are less than 100 years old because they are recycled constantly. Trees in tropical regions take a little bit longer to reach maturity, but sequester carbon much faster. We know it will take time for new forests to absorb atmospheric carbon.”

    So reducing CO2 by 25% requires converting an area equivalent to the sum of US and Canada into a forest.

     
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  10. Jul 6, 2021 at 8:28 AM
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    Guy in my neighborhood has a tesla and his charger/plug caught his garage on fire. luckily it was during the middle of the day he acted fast and was able to stop the fire before it burned down the whole garage.
     
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    Oh look, more rehashed bullshit that was already shot down in the hybrid thread.

    Buy a horse, luddites.
     
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    Now I'm curious how you think trees work and where you got your tree degree from.
     
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    So when an acorn falls to the ground and after 100 years matures into a giant oak tree...how many new carbon particles were formed to grow the new tree?

    Zero.

    The carbon cycle has existed since the beginning of time. Carbon exists, the only thing that changes is what other atoms it bonds itself to.
     
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    So when will we see this new truck? 2040?

    Toyota moves at a snails pace vs. everyone else in the automotive space
     
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    If you plant a tree today, it will be about 25 years old and fully capturing carbon offsetting it's impact until it turns to coal or a squirrel turd by the time this hits the streets.
     
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    Did he determine the source of the fire? Sounds like poor electrical wiring from his house circuit breaker to his charger.
     
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    My old neighbor had a Pinto in 74. Should have seen that fire.
     
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    Supercharger, sway bars, lift, leather, tires, Gobi, etc.
    Hey, I learned a new term...."luddites". Thank you, and apropos.
     
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    This is an extremely shallow view of the issue. Not all carbon on earth is part of the carbon cycle. When you burn fossil fuels, you introduce that was not part of the carbon cycle for ~300 million years. Most coal and oil we use today formed during the carboniferous period (350 to 300 mya) when bacteria and fungi didn't had the ability to digest cellulose and lignin, so when plants died, they didn't decompose. Layers and layers of plant material sedimented for millions of years without decomposing, got buried and mineralized into coal, oil and natural gas. When we burn these, we introduce carbon deposited over ~50 millions years back to the carbon cycle in a century or so.

    Only natural (or geological) way carbon mineralized carbon can be introduced back to the atmosphere and carbon cycle is through volcanoes. But these events are often short lived and only release a fraction of mineralized carbon back to the atmosphere. The exception is the massive volcanic eruption that covered 1/3 of Siberia and formed Siberian Traps. It also caused massive global warming that caused Permian–Triassic extinction event.
     
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    I didnt ask questions about the specifics he just said the fire started at the plug for the charger
     

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