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5yr old girl killed by Pit bulls

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  1. Jan 13, 2011 at 7:17 AM
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    It's about respect. It doesnt matter if your dog is a 10lb maltese or a 100+lb german shepard. Your dog should be locked up and not roaming the neighborhood. It should be always leashed around other people unless they approve otherwise. And if there is any incidence of aggression towards another person that should be heeded as a warning. It all comes down to ghetto/trash doing more damage to our society with lack of brains, morals, and respect
     
  2. Jan 13, 2011 at 7:47 AM
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    Matic The "OFG" Baby!!!

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    Personally, I see this as a load of crap. News is news regardless of breed.
    The reason you don't see "Golden retriever mauls old woman" in the news is because it rarely happens.
    Why pick on pit bulls? Because it happens much more frequent in this breed of dog. No one is picking on "Bully Dogs".
    Again... How many times have you seen "Dobermans or german shepards kill 5 yr old girl"? They are aggressive are they not?

    Regardless of breed, most likely the news will report it. It just so happens that Pitt bull attacks happen at a much higher percentage.

    Facts:

    • Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.

    • An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).

    • Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.

    Fact:n recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:
    "Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
    The Clifton study of attacks from 1982 through 2006 produced similar results. According to Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes were responsible for 65% of the canine homicides that occurred during a period of 24 years in the USA. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.)
    Other breeds were also responsible for homicides, but to a much lesser extent. A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.) Since 1975, fatal attacks have been attributed to dogs from at least 30 breeds.
    The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)







    It's perfectly normal for people to stand up and defend the very things they love.

    Facts are facts.
     
  3. Jan 13, 2011 at 8:51 AM
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    a man was attacked by two pitts here recently, I think he lost an ear and got fucked up pretty bad.
     
  4. Jan 13, 2011 at 8:55 AM
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    i think this thread and the pics being brought forward has shown that responsible owners raise trustworthy pets.
     
  5. Jan 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM
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    My cousin was attacked by his own pit, and she really was the sweetest dog in the world. I think she may have had a brain tumor because it was so far out of character. Pits can be dangerous in the wrong hands just like guns, but responsible gun owners never seem to have problems with their weapons and responsible dog owners never seem to have problems with their dogs.
     
  6. Jan 13, 2011 at 9:26 AM
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    Someone mentioned through the posts about Pomeranian's. We had one as kids, this little dog was the meanest dog I ever seen. I litterally tore the pants off the mailman. It bit me and my sisters numerous times. I used to lay in bed and wish hateful things on it. Although when my dad was around, it was sweet as pie. We finally got rid of it when it bit my Aunt.
     
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    I agree, its ok to have aggressive animals, but you must take necessary precautions when owning them. I have two dogs, a American Eskimo, and a Sheltie Collie.

    All the little kids walk past my yard wanting to pet them. I wont let them, because you never know when one of them can piss them off and they might snip at them. Im not willing to take that risk. So I keep them leashed and on my property at all times.
     
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    Alot of good points from both sides of the issue. But seems that most are missing or not recognizing one undeniable fact.. If you are a Pit owner you MUST accept the fact that your breed IS BRED TO BE AGGRESSIVE, oh yeah, pet owners are usually at least mostly at fault for NOT recognizing this genetic fact & seeing to it that precautions and environment are suited for your puppy, whatever the breed. Are PitBulls savage not to be trusted animals?, some are, just like any other breed can be deemed vicious. But as an owner, you can't preach that Pits are getting a bad rap, they ARE just inheritantly MORE AGGRESSIVE by breeding & thus WILL be more prone to show aggression, goes back to my statement about Terriers being bred to kill rats in Britian & Europe . Remember , Dogs are not of nature , they are/were man-made by the domestication (somewhat) of Wolves. Bad dog owners will raise bad dogs , no doubt, but before an owner says " My dog wouldn't harm anyone or anything" They best fully understand the mannerisms & temperment of what their particular breed of choice has. They're not good, they're not bad, its just each breed has their own particular set of "quirks"....:cool: just my $.02
     
  9. Jan 13, 2011 at 9:52 AM
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    Sorry,it is not the owner.
    There are many cases where the pit was brought up trained correctly in a caring home. It jumped the fenced and chewed some poor neighbors face off or dragged some poor elderly gentleman into a pond while someone was beating it with a shovel.

    FACT: 65-70% of deaths caused by dog related bites, deaths, mutilations or maimings are caused by pits and rots.

    READ NOOB.
     
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    And furthermore, post up your shit statistics of other breeds attacking, killing and maiming innocent woman, children and the elderly and I will post TWO pittbull deaths to your one.
    And I frankly don't care to hear the story about how your aunts chihwahaha nipped your finger while you were trying to hold it's 2 hr old pup. You deserved that one.
     
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    I wonder how many of those attacking dogs were trained for aggression and fighting and how many had a more responsible upbringing.
     
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    Here are mine and my brothers dogs

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    The black am staff in the front (lala) is mine. She just turned 9 years old at the beginning of january. She has never even so much as shown her teeth to anyone or any other animal, I've had her since 8 weeks. The brown pit mix in the back (tyler) is my brothers, he has bitten some people but only if they come in the house and don't acknowledge him, some have been people he shouldn't have but he has also stopped 3 home invasions. The puppy in the front (bishop) is a blue am staff. He's 4 1/2 months old. He was bred by blossoms kennel in atlanta. Sweetest dog I have ever met, but he cost more then 2k. If you get the dogs from certified breeded they are as good and gentle as any other animal. It's the idiots that are incestually breeding these aggressive pits that have aggressive parents and in the end u have a dead little girl. People need to wise up and know before they get one of these dogs what it takes to raise them. They are a hard breed to raise but will be the best dogs if done properly.
     
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    I think the thread went to shit.
     
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    pitbull isnt even a breed alone.
     
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    Couple weeks ago I was walking my dog a german shepherd. When all of a suddden this pit comes out of nowhere. My dog is the most mellow friendly dog but when he saw that pit coming at us he snapped into protection mode and got super aggresive with the pit and scared it off. I had never seen my dog get like that. It was crazy. But I can never say I hate pits. Like most said its in the owners. I had a pit growing up super cool dog that I will never forget
     
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    This is awful! Some of you may remember my encounter with a pit 6 or 7 months ago. Pit attacked our GSD puppy. It was completely the owners fault. He had the dog off leash in a public park with kids everywhere. My sister owns a pit and it's a very loving dog. It's the owners fault when a dog mauls somebody. Our GSD is 9 months old now and is capable of mauling if he wanted to. But he doesn't. When we take him somewhere he is always on leash. We spent hundreds training him on basic protection and commands. He knows when to attack and when not to but it's still takes constant training and work to keep him that way. We are going to take him back for the full protection classes in a few months. The biggest issue IMO with the dog mauling is lack of resposibility by the owner. The problem is irresponsible owners get the dog as a status symbol. Look at me...Im big and bad cause I have a pit. At least that is what I got from the ass who's pit attacked my GSD. Somebody quoted in an earlier post that you should have to get a license to own a powerful breed. I think that would definitely help. It would weed out the jackasses that have no business owning one. Just my $0.02
     
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    This always seems to be a touchy subject on here. I've seen about 4 threads about pits that have gone the same way. I have one and love her to death, shes a great dog, wouldn't have it any other way. But I'm not going to argue about it and force my opinion/facts on someone else! You live your life, I live mine, PERIOD.
     
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    Dog's are as smart as their owners. End of disscussion.
     

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