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Taco PRO Owners: Interested in a spring upgrade for front?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ryan at Eibach, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Jul 28, 2021 at 5:27 PM
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    STalon92

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    Thanks! As mine sits right now on the 265/70s, I’m looking at 36.25” in front and 37.5” in rear. Nice little rake and nothing in my bed.

    Definitely worth it!
     
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  2. Jul 28, 2021 at 10:49 PM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...pgrade-for-front.643212/page-60#post-25968491

    I'm running E rated 285/75r16 Yokohama Geolandar AT GO15s. No issues, no rub on road. Just finished a two week road trip through Colorado. Finished up in Ouray, may have rubbed once (still not convinced it was the tire rubbing) off-road heading up to Engineer Pass from Million Dollar Highway. Fairly rocky and steep on some of the switch backs at the start of the trail.

    Overall the Eibach springs paired with my custom rear leafs and Firestone Ride Rites did great. Both on-road and off-road, and also while towing. The only issue I have now is the lack of power while towing especially up grades. The Tacoma feels absolutely gutless. Probably going to go with OV tune and eventually gears.
     
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  3. Jul 31, 2021 at 8:01 PM
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    Howdy folks, I’ve been lurking on this thread for a while. Got my springs last week. Ordered 285/75r16 Nitto Ridge Grapplers and new upper control arms. It will all get installed whenever the tires show up. I’ve got an SSO Slimline front bumper, winch, and sliders so I’m looking to fix some of the “sag”. I’ll take some before and after pics and measurements. Cheers.
     
  4. Aug 1, 2021 at 8:57 AM
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    How does the new spring feel compared to the oem pro springs? Does it still feel like your riding on a pillow
     
  5. Aug 1, 2021 at 10:36 AM
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    damn the day i want to buy them, they are sold out. anyone have a link to another purchase site?

    k found a site to buy it. part number just an fyi

    E30-82-069-03-22
     
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  6. Aug 1, 2021 at 10:40 AM
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    Im planning to pick up a 2022 TRD pro with the fox upgrade! It also comes with UCA. Hopefully, I won’t have to touch any of it! Patiently waiting to pre-order in fall
     
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  7. Aug 1, 2021 at 10:41 AM
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    i heard the uca is trash, but ill buy it off you lol
     
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  8. Aug 1, 2021 at 12:14 PM
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    Is it okay to quote one's self? It's a little long, but here's an update...

    Finally got a chance to clean everything up and dive under the Tacoma after 2 weeks on the road covering ~2600 miles from San Diego to Denver and back. The priority for this trip was sight seeing and camping in the scenic back country of Colorado, seeing family in Denver, paddle boarding, and lastly hitting the trails around Ouray. Overall we spent 10 nights camping, one night visiting with family, and 3 nights in a hotel (it was over 100° at night and we were just driving through Nevada and Arizona!) All of our camping was in National Forests and we tow a 2018 Patriot Camper X1GT. Most roads were easy 2WD access roads, but the evening storms quickly turned most roads into slippery mud covered quagmires with 4x4 being required, especially while towing. Our last stop in Ouray was perhaps the toughest to get to with a trailer. The last 1/4 mile was on a narrow shelf road mainly used for horseback riding but the MVUM showed 4x4 vehicles were authorized, as was dispersed camping. We needed 4Lo to get the trailer down the last 100 yards due to large ruts and some washout.

    If you haven't been to Ouray and the surrounding areas, I highly recommend you go! It was by far the most scenic and enjoyable off-roading I have ever done. Our base camp for the three days we were there was around 8,250' MSL and we reached 13,114' MSL on Imogene Pass. This was the highest I have camped (but not by much!) and the highest I have been with two feet on the ground (again, not by much!). While in Ouray we did Imogene Pass from Ouray to Telluride, Engineer Pass from Million Dollar Highway on CR17, and a shortened version of the Alpine Loop skipping Cinnamon Pass (thunder storms were moving in) and heading south on CR2 to 110 and to Silverton. My initial thoughts are quoted above, but I wanted to add after giving the Tacoma once over.

    I currently have 3 issues to dig into, the first two of which are front coil spring related.

    1. I developed a squeak from the front of the Tacoma. It started on the driver side and then it progressed to the passenger side. I thought it was just loose shock tower bolts, so I removed them used blue Loctite, and retorqued to factory spec. Seemed to work for about 15 minutes, then the squeak was back. The control arms seem to be tight, so I used some compressed air to make sure there was no dirt in the UCA bolts and used WD-40 to see if it quiets them down. We shall see if that solves the problem...and when Toyota releases the Part Number for their new Tacoma TRD Pro UCAs, I'll probably pick up a pair.

    2. I have now confirmed I rubbed while on the trails and have found two spots where the front tires contacted. It is not on the body mount, it is just forward of the front body mount on the frame rail. As I previously posted, for the past 2 months I've been running E rated 285/75r16 Yokohama Geolandar AT GO15s on stock TRD Pro wheels. They are easy to balance, run really smooth and quiet on the highway, tow well, and handled everything we threw at them while off-road. The time I thought I rubbed was on the trail (CR17) from Million Dollar Highway up to Engineer Pass. It is really steep and rocky with some sharp switch backs that required three point turns while in 4Lo. I can now confirm that while going in reverse at full lock I rubbed slightly. Definitely not enough to freak out about, and I probably won't do anything about it since I don't normally run trails that steep, narrow, and rocky.

    3. Last, and not related to the Ebach springs, but to my rear lift solution. The brackets for the Firestone Ride-Rites have contacted the rear shock bodies on both sides in the rear. There is about a 2mm deep, 6mm long scratch where the bracket has contacted the shock. This was not an issue before departing for our trip, and I believe the suspension flex from hitting the trails in Ouray has caused the issue. It currently looks to only be superficial damage, but I'll have to come up with a solution to prevent any further rubbing in the future. Grinding down the corners of the brackets so they are round should solve the problem.

    Overall impressed with the Ebach springs. I'll be looking to add some more weight up front eventually in the form of a winch with a hidden mount, possibly an aluminum front bumper. I am currently running the stock TRD Pro engine skid with aluminum RCI mid, trans and fuel tank skids, and steel RCI sliders with top plate and kickouts. I have an ARE CX-HD, Decked drawers and carry extra fuel and tools, for a total constant load of 800 lbs. before adding us and trailer. Next mods will be 5.29 gears and KDMaxx tune! The Tacoma desperately needs the help, especially on grades when towing.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2021 at 12:26 PM
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    A recommendation for measuring for lift height so your numbers are not skewed. This will give you an exact center hub to bottom of fender flare measurement and negates the size, load rating and inflation psi of your tires compared to another owners tires.

    1. Measure the diameter of the face of your wheel (It's not 16", that's the inside of the barrel where the tire bead mounts!) and divide by two.

    2. Measure from the bottom of the rim to the bottom of the flare and subtract the number from step one.

    My Tacoma measured at 22" front driver, 22.25" front passenger, and the rear measured at 22.75" on both driver and passenger side with the rear Eibach blocks installed.
     
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  10. Aug 1, 2021 at 5:10 PM
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    Thanks, this makes a lot more sense. I’ll give it a try.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2021 at 11:10 AM
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    Couldn't you just measure from the center of the hub to the bottom of the flare to get the same result? Just making sure I'm not missing something.
     
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  12. Aug 2, 2021 at 11:17 AM
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    You sure can, but identifying the center of the hub and holding the tape measure in place gets difficult. Especially if you want a precise measurement and if your doing the measurements by yourself. This makes it easy and dummy proof to get an exact center hub to flare measurement.

    I should also add it is important you take measurements when the truck is completely level. Any slope will also skew the measurements.
     
  13. Aug 2, 2021 at 11:47 AM
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    I have a 2020 pro.

    I have westcott design front lift with spc UCA
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    truck drives great better than stock and no rubbing
     
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  14. Aug 2, 2021 at 12:27 PM
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    I installed the ADO AAL this weekend. Originally kept the overload in, but it gave me a 3in rear lift when I set the truck down! I removed it and got roughly a 2in. I loved the 3in, but was worried I was extending the stock rear fox shock too much. BTW I carry about 200-250lbs in the bed constantly.

    Going off your method... I am at 20.625 in the fronts, and 22.625 in the rear.

    Will be installing the Eibach Springs soon in the front. Also the rear needs to settle. Hoping I still have a little rake!
     
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  15. Aug 3, 2021 at 8:01 AM
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    Correct! This is how we measure here and are actually making a quick vid on how and why we do it this way.
     
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    Where exactly did you "hear" the UCA was "trash", and in what respect? The UCA is forged, which is stronger than a billet manufactured UCA. So is it the joint that's trash, the bushings?
     
  17. Aug 4, 2021 at 5:30 AM
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    Pretty sure that was a tongue in cheek response...
     
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    oh man you're right I'm an idiot hahaha. well played :hattip:
     
  19. Aug 4, 2021 at 10:17 AM
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    Has anyone used this method to measure their stock rear height with an empty bed? I forgot to measure it before I installed the AAL. Just wondering what the starting number is.
     
  20. Aug 7, 2021 at 12:09 PM
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    Finally got my 285/75s on today. Happy with the final outcome.

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