CMC vs cab mount relocation, also homemade fender liners?

Since doing the suspension lift I feel like my 265/75/16 just look a little off, don't properly fill out the wheel well like they did with stock suspension. I'd like to go up to maybe 295/70/17 eventually, so right around 33" dia. and figure this will mean flattening the welds, doing something to the plastic (see below for my ideas on this) and either a CMC or relocation. What is the benefit of the total mount relocation vs a seemingly more simple chop? If I'm not intending to run something like 35's, and just want enough clearance offroad with 33's, will a CMC be good enough?

And I also understand that the fender liner plastic needs to be trimmed back/ heatgunned into place. I saw a set of custom liners for sale somewhere for $200 that to me just looked like Kydex. If you are into guns/ shooting you have almost certainly seen Kydex before, it's super easy to work with and molds with heat very well. Plus it is fairly inexpensive for a large 8sq ft piece of it, and I imagine would make really nice liners. Is there some consideration I'd need to take for the air intake on the passenger side if I were replacing the liners over there? Not sure where I heard that was a potential issue. Was figuring I could just remove the plastic and use it as a template to cut new, thinner and more svelte liners, but I'm also a bit confused as to how much these effect clearance with larger tires, and if it's even necessary.

 

You can hear the liners and mild them if you want to keep them. You don’t need a relocate you can get a pretty aggressive CMC and be fine. I have a relocate but honestly prob did not need it. but for 285’s or 33’s def not for sure. Fender liner isn’t that much either. A bit a true bottom. While on a trail trimmed as needed until it stopped but wasn’t too much. I would do the pinch weld and caster is the other part of the recipe but depends which UCA as some have built in caster you need to account for.

 

You’ll be fine with a CMC. no need for a CMR as it does very little to add more clearance. Visually the CMR looks like you’re getting a lot more room but most of the potential interference can be cleared with a properly done CMC.

There’s a few different ways to tackle the fender liner but it really depends on what you want the end result to look like. You can trim it and pin it back after flattening the pinch weld or just remove it completely. The liners are meant to provide a little protection from debris hitting the fenders and they limit that noise transferring inside the cab. They do protect the air intake from larger debris and mud but a lot of that depends on where you drive your vehicle.

The homemade liners are more work than it’s worth unless you’re trimming a new radius into the fenders and flares which requires you to remove the liner attachment points or are getting fiberglass fenders.

 

for the liners ide just trim what you need or heat and re mold it depending on where it rubs.

 

Have Camburg 1.25 Uniball UCAs, yeah from what I read having caster around 3-3.5 can also help provide clearance. Only thing I could think about the CMC vs relocation, if the CMC will work for now, would be if I wanted to go up in the future and wouldn't have to redo it to a relocation, but it's also my daily driver and I think 33's will be sufficient and provide a happy medium

 

That was my reasoning but all in all a good CMC will do the job or go all in and get JD fab lower pivots which move it forward which may not even require either. I think I had redone my CMC and more aggressive I think I would have been fine.

 

Let’s see pics with the 265’s

 

Here are two, I still have the flaps on so taking them off would open it up a bit as well. Also I checked my paperwork from the last alignment and they set caster around 2°, so changing that with bigger wheels/ tires would have an impact as well

 

IMO doesn’t look bad with 265’s My bro’s 4Runner 285’s and my 265’s for reference. For me I’m good. Not 33’s but who cares

 

Yeah true, it's just me being nitpicky. The other main difference I'd be changing is the offset, so would push them out a little bit (I think the wider width of tire, plus going to -10 from 0) would have biggest impact. Just feels like it got much taller, by even a few inches, without gaining any width. Not like I feel like it's gonna roll or something like this though

 

Ever thought of 255/85/16?

 

Yeah I've checked out the pictures of the skinnys, would definitely help avoid rubbing issues and they look good from the side, but I'm really trying to build it out to be able to go offroad and I guess always assumed the wider tire of like 285/295 would shine there. Also concerned if that would still make me feel like it was "anemic" for lack of a better word. Even if it filled out the wells better, maybe not so much from the front/ rear?

 

I off-road with 265’s mostly moderate trails do just fine. Also 255’s measure out taller than 285’s I’ve seen on threads

 

Yeah I imagine they'd be taller, but what about difference on width? I'll have to play around with the tire calculator I found on here, see how different sizes compare to what I've currently got. Maybe even just keeping these 265/75 on a wheel with more negative offset would really change the appearance, but if I'm getting new wheels, I liked the thought of going up to 17 because I understand there to be more tire options.

 

265 on a 16x8 yes for sure

 

Airing down takes care of the width, unless you are building a pavement queen and looks are important.

 

Homemade fender flares? These are for next Friday

 

I have been using 265/75/16’s with the stock wheels, and it's pretty sluggish with steel armor and all. Are you regearing to upgrade as well? I don’t know if that’s necessary for 295’s, but it's another option you may want to look at with anything larger.

 

Well it is what I drive to work every day, but I am really looking forward to learning how to take her offroad and am building it accordingly. But I mean, I'm not going to pretend I don't want it to look good also, just want whatever I do/ add to also be effective and functional offroad. That's a good point about airing down as well though, have been looking at adding compressor at least at some point.

Yeah I have definitely considered 4.88, was hoping to at least avoid it for as long as possible (at least until after I add bumper/ winch). I did a tune with KDMax though and that was really made a difference with normal acceleration, so we will have to see once I add a bit more weight (and am also hoping that if I didn't go beyond 33s, might not really be necessary).

 

I made my own kydex fender liners after doing some things in there and not wanting the OEM liner to flop around or be zip tied.

Ended up setting rivnuts in some holes and then bolting it on. Heat gun and welding gloves to form it. Worked great and turned out awesome! Still have more than half a sheet left