Can you say excessive force....

If police could diagnose a diabetic from all the drugs and pshyc. conditions in what 3 seconds , well the doctors will be out of business. Meanwhile a chief of police was shot last week by a druggy. Go try the job out and see for yourself, we dont live in a perfect world , theirs seems to be 10 shades of shit to deal with.

I'd almost like to see a nation wide police strike for one day and have it announced, what will you do for that day? After shooting 8 druggies & say 5 gang bangers , you make the call if that next guy is ..... oh hes just a diabetic.

 

Solus you must be reading a diffrent article. They smashed out a window for a reason. He apparently didn't stop when they turned there lights on, so they figured he had something to hide. If this guy was really drunk and a criminal how much good would it have done to ask hey are you okay.For all the crap that police officers have to put up with they need to be agressive. We can all play monday QB, but none of us really knows the events leading up to this issue. I think the guy just wants to make some money.

 

These topics bring out the worst in us all. We all want to take sides and to comment on the actions that have been committed. I'm not trying to bash on anyone, nor am I taking sides. I'm just simply stating this... diabetes=tricky dangerous disease. cop=tricky dangerous job. There are simply too many variables to argue about who is right. Why can't we just get back to arguing about which shocks are better, who makes a better bumper?? Simple things like that. Stuff we joined this site for in the first place? Just food for thought.

 

Not necessarily true. When an individuals blood glucose drops or increases..hypo vs hyperglycemic..they can produce fruity keytones that are very close to the smell of alcohol. Weakness although a very common effect of hypoglycemia is also not the only effect. There are people out there who when their blood sugar drops below normal..80-120..become combative. They still have enough atp in their system to provide them with strength and energy..albeit not for an extended amount of time..but they do not have the necessary amount of sugar..atp.. to provide for adequate brain function

 

how did you know HE DID or DIDN'T you're right but in this country everyone is innocent until proven guilty... its sad that cops are so paranoid whether it be race, age, culture, or just so disastrous incident that has recently happened... cops must be held to a higher standard and therefore must adhere to those higher standards

 

he wasn't playing with himself in the truck! for christs sake... they knew he was probably impaired... not fumbling with his AK47.

These cops were aggressive over zealous individuals (at least at this particular stop) maybe they had bad experiences or maybe they just were racist but either way this sort of thing should not be tolerated for individuals tasked with protecting the innocent and enforcing the law. Our police are not third world thugs claiming to be cops and therefore should not act like them. I have no simpathy for these cops...

its one thing to act in a protective manner... but when a fellow LEO tries to stop you and you still continue then you have a problem and probably should not be a cop.

note: there is a lot of ambiguity and I am making some assumption based on my own interactions with LEOs but based on the information provided in the article these cops should be fired at the least

 

There is no excuse for this. They take an oath to "protect and serve", and if that oath is broken in any way, they should be put in jail for a long time. Fucking disgusting abuse of power.

 

You guys a missing the fact that on the side of the car it says. To protect and serve. They work for us the tax payers.

 

I understand that the police have a job to do, but he was an unarmed civilian. He wasn't waiving a gun or a knife in their faces. The officers' action were completely uncalled for. How hard would it have been for them to simply ask him a few questions before jumping to some outrageous conclusion?

I agree that those power-hungry douche bags should be fired on the spot.

 

In this situation, the driver is a diabetic. A diabetic in either a hypo or hyperglycemic state, is not capable of making rational decisions. Their body is burning off, or has an excess of the necessary sugars to adequately and appropriately supply the brain. Which is inhibiting their decision making, among other bodily functions.

 

"But, there are after effects - physical and mental.

Harmon has had three surgeries on his elbow and one on his thumb, which he couldn't move for weeks. Doctors tell him he may eventually have to get a shoulder and elbow replacement. He has insurance, but his medical bills are nearing $100,000.

Panic attacks come when Harmon simply sees a deputy driving nearby."

Un fucking real...this saddens me!!!

 

Kilted's point on the bracelet, think id get spare ones to be sure. Sort makes me think that even if you dont realize it , maybe we take the good health for granted.

 

This depends on each individuals "normal" range. Diabetics whose "normal" blood sugar is say..140, if their sugar drops a few points, they can become completely unresponsive. Normal healthy individuals can function at lower bg levels. But how well? How long does it take to make the appropriate decision or reaction? Like I said in a previous post, there are simply too many variables with this disease.



**Posted only in blue to differentiate posts. Not trying to be rude or make a point.

 

This isn't always the case I've got a buddy who's diabetic and was getting his wisdom teeth removed his blood sugar started to drop and he started to panic. The dentist ended up calling the cops and it took 4 of them to subdue him. He got pretty beat up and now has a bunch of charges filed against him including assault and resisting arrest.

 

Probably needs a new set of teeth too.

 

With the prevalence of diabetes in society, I am dismayed by the level of ignorance voiced by JDaniel and Tucker 2. One with a supposed "long time medical" background seems to have not translated into any real knowledge.

A diabetic that is well controlled can still experience a low Blood Glucose (BG) level, getting jumped by a couple of redneck, bigoted cops would exacerbation the low BG.

The driver may be a very responsible diabetic, who usually checks his BG before driving but if he was experiencing the low BG prior to driving, he may have forgotten in his confusion. Getting jumped by these cops, would likely cause a rapid drop in BG levels due to the trauma of the attack.

I am a 47 year old Type 1 diabetic, have been since the age of 5. I've had exactly one low BG that caused me to be unconscious at the age of 8. I would assert, I'm likely in better health and fitness than most people, lumping all diabetics into one stereotype is just ignorant.

I workout 6 days a week at the gym, I ride thousands of miles on bicycles every year (road and mountain), I can maintain a level BG for hours and hours at very high levels of activity but I can still experience a low that I need to address quickly.

Could it happen to me? Well it is feasible, so for that I should be locked away from society? I'm careful but if it happened to me I would pray I don't come across these kind of cops or JDaneil or Tucker2.