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Steering Wheel Feedback/Flutter??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by patinaeater, Aug 5, 2021.

  1. Aug 5, 2021 at 4:09 PM
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    patinaeater

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    Ok I got a big question....
    Im gonna lay it all out and see if any has any thoughts.
    I just finished getting my truck lifted and shes driving sooo close to perfect but somethings driving me nuts.... (2013 Taco)
    I went with billies 6112's in the front at 5th clip so just over 2.5" and Icon AAL pack in back and Icon rear shocks, so about 1.5" in the back.... slapped on some Methods with a 0 offset and 275/70/r17's K02's....
    So she mostly rides like butter.... but im getting this steering wheel feedback when going over rough parts of the road, the steering wheel flutters a bit and shakes around.... steering feels tight enough when I turn the wheel(very responsive), but its like the suspension is taking up the bumps in the road and sending feedback right into the steering wheel, but again on smooth parts of the road its like glass.....
    sooo a couple things... immediately after the lift it just seems to me like the stock UCA's are too flexed out, so I'm going to replace them, think I'm gonna do JBA's, some of the reading ive done it seems like this has solved some driving issues for people after getting lifted... BUT a little more back history...
    I bought this truck right before winter, the tires it had on there needed to be replaced before the snow hit, but I knew I was going to do a lift and I was in a pickle... my landlord coincidentally acquired some brand new K02's on super sale, so he gave them to me for 200$, and I thought perfect to just slap on until I do the lift and all that jazz. But these k02"s were really really tiny.... my truck drove perfect and normal before, went on a couple long trips even, and I noticed when I put the new tiny k02's on I got this death wobble around 40-50mph, I honestly figured the wheels were so small that this was the reason for the wobble and I thought to myself the truck would drive normal again with normal sized tires.... So now here I am after the lift, cant tell if this is a new problem or from something before or what... So I know this is a lot, but thats the sitch with a little back history, any help would be appreciated!
    Love the TacoWolrd fam, again any help or thoughts would be awesome
    please and thank you
     
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  2. Aug 5, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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    gotoman1969

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    Has the alignment been done? You could be getting a little bump steer from poor caster adjustment.
     
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  3. Aug 5, 2021 at 6:57 PM
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    ohcaltexscar

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    I was thinking caster too, I have a similar light flutter on the highway.
    I have an alignment appointment set up to see how my numbers are.
    The UCA’s will certainly help you achieve a proper alignment.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2021 at 7:36 PM
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    Yes I had the shop who did the install align as well
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  5. Aug 5, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    Bishop84

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    More caster from upper control arms will help.

    More caster means less bump steer.

    Next issue that is not fixable is the tie rod angle, if you look at the tie rod ends you'll see them pointing down, this is a negative attribute to steering and results in poor feed back as well.
     
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  6. Aug 5, 2021 at 9:02 PM
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    Looks like a good stock alignment.
    You’ll want caster in the 2.5-3* range though.
    Per this old thread.
    Or here and here.
    Just for reference, you can read through those conversations.

    @Bishop84 is correct, not much you can do about tie rod angle. If you get the caster dialed in you shouldn’t notice that anyway though.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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    azzwethinkweiz

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    Hey man, this sounds exactly like what many other experience with the second gen Tacoma. I had this issue and fixed it by shoving some tiewraps in-between the rubber steering shaft damper and the metal shaft part. Doing this takes some of the "slack/slop/play" out of the steering and for me it has fixed this annoying feeling. Others have fixed this by forcing the two parts of the steering shaft tighter together.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...ad-the-zip-tie-fix-will-make-your-day.435015/

    I live down a dirt road and the areas where it has gone washboard would make my steering wheel flutter side to side like crazy and make knocking noises before doing this. You may need to replace the tie wraps every once in awhile though.

    Your problem could be different but maybe it will help.
     
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  8. Aug 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM
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    patinaeater

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    awesome thanks for the help,
    seems like many people are in agreement that higher caster will help,
    when I replace the UCA’s and get it aligned I will report back here
     
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