Long term reliability

Yeah google is great.
Do you feel that will improve or reduce their reliability?

 

It's kind of hard to say, Subaru's have been made in the US since 1989, most of their popular models that most people know today were made after that. I guess there could be a comparison with the pre 89 Subarus but I am not sure how much of a sample there would be.

So as far as Subaru goes they have been made here thru most of their production run, I am not sure if they have a model like the 4 runner and Land Cruiser that has only been made in Japan, (maybe one of the performance models?). My family has owned 4 of them and has had no issues with any of them other than known Subaru issues (head gasket etc) they have been more or less as reliable as the Toyotas I have owned, although they are a little quirky and do require a little more attention.

According to Google they are ranked about mid pack in reliability for the moment (14th out of 32)

Google is great for fast facts, as I didn't know how many Subarus were made here until I saw your post, I thought they were made here but I had no clue how long it has been.

 

This is why the mods I do in my Canadian driveway actually make my Tacoma slightly more reliable, having been done in Canada.

It’s just the facts.

 

My Bmw has gone 180k without major repair thus far, I’m confident my Tacoma will handle that with no problems

 

Stupidity.

Nobody wants to come to this armpit of a state. You hosting the party?! Haha

 

In this thread...I learned that 1st and 2nd Gens breaking in half Edmund Fitzgerald style isn't a "reliability" issue since it does not fit the narrative.

 

It all depends how you treat it and take care of it. We have a few people who have gotten their 3rd gens to the 200k mile range. But keep in mind that this truck has only existed for 6 years (the engine has existed longer) so 200k is A LOT of driving.

That being said, the trucks you see with 1M+ miles all have one thing in common: long highway miles. Your engine receives about 90% of its wear before reaching operating temperature. I'd rather purchase a 3 year old vehicle with 50k on it than a 10 year old one with 10k on it (assuming it was still used regularly, that is).

 

200,000 miles is setting the bar kinda low for any vehicle. Anymore I'd expect 200,000 miles minimum from any manufacturer. With Toyota 400,000 is the benchmark.

 

If I only get to 200k before my Tacoma needs a major overhaul, I will not be a happy camper. Keep up with your regular maintenance and don’t abuse the vehicles capabilities and we will be fine!

 

It depends on your definition of "major repair." At 158k my last GM was already becoming a money pit with several issues that I couldn't even locate to try and fix.

 

My definition of major repair is $2,000 or more of a shop bill.

 

Yeah, why not. We’ll tailgate it in the parking lot of that ridiculous half-built Titanic mock-up. An appropriate symbol for the “show me” state.

 

My 2008 Tacoma had 306k when the transmission failed. That was the only ‘major’ repair it needed. I will be more attentive to my 2021’s transmission. That said, I was disappointed the trans failed but not surprised.

 

Actually, according to JD Power, the top automobile assembly plant in the world for quality control in 2020 was GM's Yangtai Dongyue 2 plant in China that produces the Buick Envision, which received their platinum plant quality aware for producing vehicles with the least number of defects. Chrysler's plant in Mexico and Toyota's plant in Turkey both received gold awards. Affordability aside, you're saying you'd never buy a Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi (Germany), Volvo (Sweden and South Carolina for the S60), or a Ferrari, which are built to order totally by hand in Maranello, Italy? While Japan does have a well deserved reputation for it's emphasis on producing reliable, well built quality vehicles and US automakers have come a long way in improving quality control, I will take my Taco built in Mexico any day of the week.

 

For me it would be anything not considered normal wear items (normal wear items including, but not limited to tires, spark plugs, fluids, brakes, shocks, etc.).

My last truck (2008 GMC Canyon) had a coolant leak I couldn't locate the source of (the wettest/highest parts were all things that didn't have coolant), an EVAP leak, TPMS issues that no tire shop could fix, seatbelt pretensioner wiring issues; and those were just the issues I didn't/couldn't fix.

I'd also repaired or had repaired the driver's door handle (which snapped), the header/catalytic converter (one piece), thermostat, and power steering pump, brake drum cylinder, wheel bearings, and a few others I'm sure I'm forgetting. All before 160k miles. Several of those were lumped together and still didn't come out to $2k. Those aren't counting the normal wear items either.

 

Dont worry, 3rd gens will get there when they’re old enough!

 

In all fairness, JD Power isn't exactly known for being unbiased.

 

Heck you can get that repair cost alone if one of the computers takes a shitter.

 

According to the threads I've seen here and speaking with my dealership, it has been a long time since Tacomas have been even close to being in need of frame replacement. Around 2008 they were purchasing many newer trucks back from customers due to frame issues and sending them off to the junkyard. They haven't seen any late 2nd gens or 3rd gens even close to that level yet. Meanwhile I see many newer GM trucks with more frame rust than my 2017 Tacoma which has spent its entire life in the rust belt and still falls under the frame replacement campaign.