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Eight Facts About Warming Up Your Car in Winter

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by surfsupl, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Jan 15, 2011 at 12:27 PM
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    The engine will warm faster when under load then sitting there ideling. Used to be the idel setting was so rich, the unburned fuel would wash by the piston rings and contaminate the engine oil making it thinner lesss protective. Been a few years and i am not sure how this works with fuel injected engines, but using carburators the rich idel mixture would do this.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM
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    I blew the front main seal out of a 130,000 mile 97 accord 4cyl by taking off right away on a below freezing day.

    Granted if that blew it, it was on its way out anyhow, but its proof of how high oil pressure is under those conditions.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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    I like the guys who rev up a carbed motor and then switch it off immediatey,,Congrats!!,,you just fuel fowled your plugs, loaded the intake with fuel puddles and wetted down the chambers. It's comparative to dumping a full juice glass full of fuel right down the intake.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2011 at 12:50 PM
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    I think we have nothing better to do than to completely over analyze everything. LOL... My first truck was a 81 yota with over 500,000 miles on it and it still runs today. I had to change out the top end because of electrolysis because I never changed the coolant and I also never changed the oil untill then. the coolant was going into the cylinder then out exaust and my truck keep overheating. My tailgate actually rusted off the truck, I had about 3 inches of play in my stearing wheel and had to change out the rear end. I found the rear end at a junk yard it was the wrong gears so every where I went the truck would be winding up like crazy. I could not even take the truck on the freeway. It was really easy to burn out though. I think the engine wearing out is one of the last things we need to worry about our trucks.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2011 at 1:40 PM
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    My very 1st car was a 1965 Chrysler 300. That car had a green rectangular "dummy light" that was actually a light guage that would slowly fade from green to black as the engine warmed up. The book recommended to not begin driving till that light was off-I would begin driving as it began to fade-which was around 7-8 minutes!
    My Tacoma's guage will start to move at 3-4 minutes. Granted a small engine like my whopping 204 cubic inch v6 in the Tacoma will heat up faster than that 426 big block in that Chrysler did-but a 3-4 minute warmup is IMO not a long one at all. I hear you guys who say that it warms up faster when you put a load right on it-but that's common sense, and I prefer to do a more gradual warming at idle.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2011 at 3:14 PM
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    Of course it warms up faster with a load on it! thats what we are trying to prevent. We want to warm it up BEFORE we put a load on it not WHILE we put a load on it. if i shove my foot to the floor it will also warm up faster...if i dump gasoline on the engine and light it, it will warm up faster too:)
     
  7. Jan 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM
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    its 0 F and I so sick of global warming turning out to be Ice Age. I am gonna idle now for 30 minutes :D
     
  8. Jan 16, 2011 at 5:00 PM
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    Yeah.. hahaha.. the next thing they will be saying that humans are responsable for global cooling.. LOL.. OHH WAIT THE MEDIA AND SCIENTIST ALREADY SAID THAT IN THE 1970's!!!!:p
     
  9. Jan 16, 2011 at 8:57 PM
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    It was 62F here today, January 16, 46+degrees N. Snow just last week. Today too hot to wear a coat.

    Pineapple express here in the NW. Irrelevant of course. You can't confuse weather with global climate change. I don't like the term 'global warming.' Although the data and the science suggests man's burning of hydrocarbons has affected the atmosphere in a way to tilt the scales of the ups and downs of climate change artificially to the warm side, the real issue is change. Man made pollution has caused a change in the whole system.

    It's not just the idea of a few degrees or tenths of a degree of overall warming, it's the change, the dramatic and unpredictable variations of the total climate that is the real issue.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM
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    You cant prove that anything we did is the reason for the "warming".they cant even legitimately prove we are warming. how can they say the global average is down or up by tenths of degrees? they dont have any accurate data from anything further than a little over 100 years back. consistently that is since the thermometer dates back pretty far however no one was globally collecting data to the tenth of a degree.

    So how did the earth go from warm and tropical to covered in ice and then back to warm again when we didnt have all this crap that you are supposing is warming our Earth????? these are the natural cycles of the Earth. it changes. that's how it always has been and we dont need to run around like chicken little when tings start to change. stop trying to save all species thinkng if they die off it will be the end of the world! species have been dying off since the Earth began and holy crap its still around and doing just fine.
     
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    It is elementary that the Earth has had warming and cooling cycles for 100,000's of thousands of years. No one disputes that. We have ice cores that go back much farther than 100 years. That we are at one of the warmest periods in Earth history is also not disputed. The issue is to what extent man's industrial activity has played a part in this.

    The vast majority of scientists believe it has, but to what degree is at issue.
    State of Fear, by Crichton puts both of sides of the argument in an entertaining fashion, along with a lot of conflicting data.

    The only thing disturbing about the debate is that on one side there are no nothings who appear to be very proud of their ignorance because they want to justify continuing to pollute with abandon and are paranoid about government intervention of any kind.
     
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    Make sure you drive it over to the McDonald's next door and leave it idling while you go inside to grab a cheeseburger. :p

    Oil doesn't need to be warm, it needs to flow. If you are that worried about engine wear, switch to 0W20 synthetic so it's thinner when cold.
     
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    i agree with him ill keep letting my truck warm up for lest 10 to 15 mins every morning
     
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    ice cores further than a 100 years back?...that does not give you a global average temp reading. you do not KNOW if this is the warmest time in Earths life. it is mpossible to know. you can assume and make a somewhat educated guess but there is could chance you could be completely wrong. it is all THEORETICAL and not proven. if it was proven then no one would dispute it. there are many...many scientist that disagree with these conclusions however they are blacklisted and shut out from the mainstream. they get no funding and are ridiculed.

    No one is saying to start plutting the earth for the hell of it but our vehicles warming up are not ruining the earth. I dont have to use solar cells. dams and nuclear power do just fine. i dont have to have a hybrid. my gas engine is not killing the earth. Its all a racket and a bandwagon for people to jump on. there is NO legitimate proof. it is impossible for you to know without a shadow of a doubt that our earth is at the hottest temps in its life and that we are the cause of it. if that were the case then you wouldnt have scientist disputing it. you cant use data that you have "guestimated" and use it as a basis for a scientific finding. this is not a PROVEN thing. it is Theory.
     
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    They take ice core samples in Antarctica from over 1000 years ago FYI Boner
     
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    Can you explain to me how they know for a fact that its 1000 years ago before you go calling some one a boner?
     
  17. Jan 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM
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    Whoops , I meant Bonner , who I was responding to.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM
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    ok hahaha.. my bad.. i thought you were being rude.. lol
     
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    I've been a bicyclist for transportation about 8 years. I believe the evidence for global warming supports the theory.

    I've ridden 2 stroke vespas for 14 years and now have a lil' 250 4 stroke motorcycle. I like small displacement engines. :)

    I now have a brand new 2.7L Taco for work.

    I listen to the engine and I time it. It usually takes between 30 and 45 seconds for the idle to die down. After that I wait another 15 seconds or so and take off, driving pretty easy until it gets warmed. I try to listen and feel how it revs until it purrs like its warm.

    I idle for 15-30 seconds before I shut it off.
     
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    Very reasonable post. I like how you say that you believe the evidence supports the theory! I respectfully disagree but I have no Problem with people who believe in MMGW its the people who attack the people who dont believe in it, like they are some backwards Idiot who arrive at conclusions with no thought process. I also love riding a bicycle and small displacement engines but its mainly for the fun, exercise and savings. Thats not to say that I dont also enjoy powerful engines like a diesel but I have no use for it right now so I can not justify the cost. Sometimes I warm my truck for 10 min but most the time I am driving off before its firing on all 4(even though it is harder on the engine)
     

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