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Tinnitus... Who has this BS?

Discussion in 'Health' started by Guerrilla, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. Sep 12, 2021 at 6:00 AM
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    RealLeisure

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    How does a doctor test and treat tinnitus (I already did some searching and could only find hearing aids as a treatment)? I doubt any of us here are health professionals, but has anyone seen a doctor for this yet? Also I had an injury to my jaw while still in the military... maybe this is the cause?
     
  2. Sep 12, 2021 at 7:43 AM
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    I ruined my ears running jackhammers in the late 60’s. Constant roaring noise I really don’t mind anymore it’s just part of life.
     
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  3. Sep 12, 2021 at 11:14 AM
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    Oh yeah, it’s a guaranteed 10%.
    - weapons fire
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    - bad 3M earplugs

    Simply say that you have ringing in your ears and you claim is updated.
     
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  4. Sep 12, 2021 at 11:34 AM
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    i am and it's some of what i do.

    from a general perspective tinnitus can come from two factors more or less. from the outside you get nerve damage, which is most of what you see discussed here. and that can come from many things, from straight up high SPLs, pointed harsh distortion or penetrating frequencies. but it can also come from multiple factors like an aviator would experience: low pressure, high freq vibrations, headphones with buzzy distortion, and harsh frequencies screaming in your ears even if low SPL. enough years of that will do damage. or at least desensitize.

    and then the inside out variety, which comes from subtle internal body dynamics. an example i see in my work would be as the kidneys go tight, from what could be many pathogenic factors such as dehydration (just one example), leading to tightening of internal tissues. the intensity and even frequency of tinnitus will often increase in those prone as the tightness increases. this is where the 'everyone's different' notion applies and makes it hard to generalize. conventional medicine doesn't typically look at these things until those types of factors are at an extreme, such as with dehydration as a single example. that may be a driver in such conditions but usually is never identified, but that's another story...

    for nerve damage there isn't much treatment available, although it may be eased in certain situations. for the latter 'internally generated' version, there may be treatments available through modalities such as Chinese herbal medicine. but that still requires skillful treatment in the right situation, which may be tricky to get right.


    anyway, since you asked.
     
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  5. Sep 12, 2021 at 12:07 PM
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    WOW! Thanks to both @CaptAmerica and @su.b.rat

    I've experienced a lot of what was mentioned above, weapons fire, equipment, etc. but also have my fair share of physical injuries from the military so I'm not sure which category I'd fall under. I already have a 100% rating from the VA and all I care about is fixing the ringing, so I'll get it looked at. Thanks guys!
     
  6. Sep 12, 2021 at 2:26 PM
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    Ah. Fixing it. There’s the rub.

    I’ve been told by multiple hearing specialists that there is no fix - just management. I manage with background noise, white noise generators, and keeping the bass down on any music I listen to. I avoid ear plugs whenever possible (that just amplifies it for me) but have a set of noise-cancelling Bluetooth shooting headphones that (news flash) work great when I’m not at range.

    Generally I wear bone conduction headphones when I wear headphones. They work fantastic and leave the ear canal open, which doesn’t amplify the ringing that other methods do.

    Good luck finding something that works for you.
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2021 at 2:31 PM
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    VA says SOL on a treatment.
     
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    Health psychologist here. Although tinnitus is often impossible to cure, its effects can commonly be reduced through specific therapies that include audiologists, psychologists, and surgeons. It's definitely an issue that can drive people mad (even suicidal), but you don't have to suffer through it alone. If you're in OR, there are a few great resources I could send you if interested (I work in a diabetes clinic, so I'm not pitching for more "customers," for the record). Also, if you're a vet, absolutely go in if you think it might be service connected! My father-in-law waiting too long to address it and now the VA is giving him some BS because of it.
     
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  9. Sep 13, 2021 at 1:29 PM
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    I am truly amazed at the breadth of professions on this site; a pleasant surprise. If you could send me information that'd be great! I'm not sure how you'd like me to share my contact info but anything will help. Thanks.
     
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  10. Sep 13, 2021 at 1:36 PM
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    A bunch of shit...
    I've got it. VA told me I was out of luck when I was getting out in '06, and again in '08. Might need to try again since all of that 3m crap came out.

    The oddest thing is that once a month or so the ringing will seem to just suddenly stop and I can hear everything around me perfectly clear. It slowly fades back to the normal background buzz over a few minutes, but it is super strange for a while.
     
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  11. Sep 13, 2021 at 1:42 PM
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    A bunch of shit...
    I just tried this, and holy shit! It didn't last for more than a few minutes for me, but it was an excellent few minutes. Definitely going to add this to the list of strange crap I do every day to not feel like I've just been run over by a semi.
     
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  12. Sep 13, 2021 at 2:42 PM
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    No worries it's on my % status I was just saying there's no cure to stop it. You just got a live with it.
     
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    A fellow vet taught me this. I thought he was just trying to mess with me and it does look stupid when you are actually doing it. It didn't work for the first few times. An when it did, HOLY CRAP!!!! That quiet was unbelievable. I was almost in tears.
     
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    Mine is constant and the volume varies with whatever I'm doing. It never ever goes away on its own and the techniques which I did which is similar didn't even reduce the volume. I'm glad it works for some of you guys. This shit creates anxiety and irritability that I thought was pretty much getting older but in reality its magnified by the cicadas in my head.:censored:
     
  15. Sep 13, 2021 at 3:09 PM
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    most who have been deployed via OIF/OEF/AFHGAN all have this shit , take your %10 percent the VA gives you and move along.
     
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    My big problem is the tinnitus combined with the high frequency hearing loss means that in a room with any ambient sound I can't distinguish one sound from another well. That translates to I can't hear people talk with background noise unless I'm staring straight at their mouth. The last year and a half with everyone in masks has been hell trying to figure out what anyone is saying without asking them to yell it at me.
     
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