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Most suitable bump stops for this kind of terrain

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Johnny Cheese, Sep 21, 2021.

  1. Sep 21, 2021 at 2:11 PM
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    Photo doesn't quite do justice to depth of the ups and downs but this is the only photo I have for now.

    There are other sandy trails that I regularly drive on that have deeper undulations and then there are some with deep water bars that I'd like to go a bit faster on without having to worry about bottoming out.

    Not talking about washboard roads. The Eibachs handle those just fine.

    sand descent.jpg

    So I don't want to protect my suspension from big drops off rocks but just the occasional going a little bit too fast through those sandy speed bumps. I'm generally a careful drive off road (because I am by myself) - just thinking that the basically non-existing bump stops may require an upgrade if I want my suspension to last.

    Thanks!
     
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    I am a fan of Superbumps.
     
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    Same.
     
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  5. Sep 21, 2021 at 2:25 PM
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    I forgot - I generally don't carry much in the bed. Just camping gear, stretcher and at worst 2 people but then I'd go so slow I wouldn't think about the suspension.
    With the Headstrong 3 AAL I only need to worry about the front, right?
     
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    For the price of adding the rear bumpstops, the performance is worth it. You would be surprised how much you bash those things!
     
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    All the things!
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    So this may be a unpopular opinion but I hated the foam/rubber style bumps in the rear. They store energy when compressed and make for a harsh rebound. If you plan on any hits aside from very slow speed crawling I'd say go with air/hydro bumps. If you have a little fab skill you can get then in for around $500. One of the greatest modifications I've made to the truck. Definitely pricy for what they are but worth it IMO. 20210708_124032.jpg
     
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    Thanks, but air/hydro bumps are way past what I'd ever need. They may be well matched to your fox shocks (I had fox on my mountain bike way back in the nineties, heh!) but I am far away from the kind of off roading where that setup would be required.
     
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    You'd be surprised how much they help in all ranges and skill levels. Especially towing. But to each their own. They are definitely pricy but I couldn't imagine going back to rubber style
     
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    It's not that I don't believe you, but I don't even tow. It really is beyond what I need and want to spend - right now. And they do seem to be an overkill for my current suspension.
    I go off road mostly because I need to, rarely for fun.
     
  12. Sep 21, 2021 at 4:20 PM
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    Durobumps feel way better than the Superbump set I had.
     
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    I’ve got Timbrens on the rear with U bolt flip kit and the new Sumobumps on the front. I like my set up but am going to try spacers to get rid of a little more of the gaps.
    I’ve got a few videos to share for you!
    These videos are on pavement and going over some speed bumps at different speeds up to like 35, and curbs. I’ll say, the front stock bump stops didn’t really touch at all. The sumos did great on bumps. The rear, active off road bump stops touch a few times.
    I’ve also got the Ironman Foam cell pros lifting about 2.5” in the front and rear.
    https://youtu.be/3URbxxPMeow
    https://youtu.be/acW0AVsWUVY
    https://youtu.be/yja409Lhk7E
     
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    Based on your use case, I think you might be chasing ghosts, but there are several bump stop upgrades available. A quick search of this forum will turn up a bunch of threads. I have read a number of them, but I've never read a really good analytical review. There's always some questions that are always on my mind:

    1) How do I know if I am hitting my bumps stops? Do I assume every big thud is my bump stops or maybe it's something else (e.g. body mounts, engine mounts, etc.)
    2) Would I be better off adjusting my shock valving?
    3) How much suspension travel am I willing to give up? We don't have much on these trucks.
     
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    These were interesting to watch. It didn't look like you were hitting anything nearly large enough to need a bump stop though. I'd like to attach a camera while I'm out off-roading to see know how often I hit the stock bumps. Another trick I have read of before is to put a zip tie on the shock absorber shaft to see if it is being pushed down to the end of your suspension travel.
     
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    Thanks and that’s not a bad idea, the zip tie portion.
    I would have liked to try better/bumpier terrain for the videos, but there is not much redials available to go on besides speed humps.
    Maybe I can find some power line or fire roads close to home and try to record it again.
     
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    I have super bumps front and rear. Out back I have OME leaf pack and there’s like 2in between the bump and the contact shelf. They have a riser that’s built into them that I feel could be half as tall. The front is on 6112s and it’s even closer. There suposed to be softer and progressive. Iv got some miles on them and there fine I guess. I can feel when they hit out back, idk maybe I got the wrong ones. Good luck with your search
     
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    absolutely no substitute for a proper hydro bump. They are just like shocks so they are velocity sensitive, meaning they provide more and more resistance the faster the bottom
    Out. Those cheap ass material bumps will behave like a spring and only provide bottom out resistance for certain speeds then return that force. Much like hitting a rubber tire with a sledgehammer . Bouncy bouncy….

    Most of the ppl that claim they work great most likely respect their trucks a lot and don’t abuse them mercilessly off road.
     
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    I've long assumed the non-hydraulic bumps were dampers as well as springs. They probably don't have as much damping as a hydraulic bump, but more than a steel coil spring. Even rubber in tires has a degree of damping. I imagine they use something better even in the stock dumps to dissipate kinetic energy. I have to say though, when I look at the stock bumps, I have a hard time understanding how they do anything at all.
     
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