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Tacoma 2.5" x 12-14" Shock Relocation 2005-2023 2nd 3rd gen Archive Garage

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Aug 25, 2021 at 11:55 PM
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    Can i run the relocate all the way up against the bed on my long bed to get the axle tabs up a little higher? Like without the little spacer block thing. Any unforeseen downsides to doing this? 14 stroke shocks
     
  2. Aug 26, 2021 at 10:14 AM
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    No, the tower moves upward off center of frame rails and the tower will hit curve of well well anyways, it won't sit flush to the flat of wheel well
     
  3. Aug 28, 2021 at 1:15 PM
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    ADS 2.5 Smooth Body 12" will fit?
     
  4. Aug 28, 2021 at 3:37 PM
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    Yup, someone even did a 13" ADS and posted in this thread IIRC

    I recommend asking for a short rod end, the extra long one isn't needed with the excellent shock clearance of our axle tabs, this helps the axle rotate up for better ground clearance

    Look at diagram in post #1, read info for collapsed length of shocks to compare.
     
  5. Aug 28, 2021 at 8:26 PM
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    So, today Snowsk8air was working on the rear for the shock relocation.
    We found with the All Dogs Performance springs. They become the limiting factor on droop. With the rear shackles still just above horizontal. By about 15* I'd say. We didnt measure it.
    So, I use Durobumps the 4.25" tall ones. After setting bump, at full droop of springs pulls the Radflo shocks to full 12".
    @snowsk8air2 can probably explain it better. Seems to work out pretty good. Figure'd you'd want the info.
     
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  6. Aug 28, 2021 at 8:56 PM
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    All the parts paired up perfectly. Bumped as high as it can with the bump stops and really wouldn’t want to go higher because the leafs going negative a bit. And the leafs limit droop to right before the shocks are fully extended. 14” shocks would do you no good. These 12’s are perfect
     
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  7. Aug 28, 2021 at 9:49 PM
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    Yep, my 14s are choked to 12.75 and I woul prefer the lower tabs to be rotated higher. 12s are perfect.
     
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  8. Aug 28, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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    Anyone with this mod only running spacers in the rear?
     
  11. Sep 14, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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    Only if you want terrible handling characteristics. Always want the front a touch wider than the rear, never the other way around. Will cause excessive body roll and under steer. Match the front and rear width, or keep the front slightly wider
     
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    What? It's totally fine, every Super car is wider in back!
    I run spcers only out back, I think @EatSleepTacos did to

    I did run spacers up front as well and it made the front softer, opposite of your statement
     
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    more understeer i'm sure of. That's why old and even some new porsches all have way wider rear wheels was to fix the oversteer issues. I get a tad more understeer as it is so that's not hopeful. Don't whole lotta sense make why it would cause more body roll but maybe i could figure out some kinda sway bar setup if it does. Either way i'm gonna try it both with and without spacers up front and it really wouldn't pain me that much to run them up front. Just don't want to if i don't really have to
     
  14. Sep 15, 2021 at 12:18 AM
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    I’ve been running 1.25” wheel spacers in the back for the past few years. If you’re a race truck, it’s not optimal for handling as @snowsk8air2 says. However for daily driver use, it has been easily drivable for me on and off road. Turning radius suffers some due to the track width difference and it bothers my OCD that my rear wheels have more poke than the front (IFS lifted trucks are inherently going to have a decrease in front track width not to mention other issues regarding geometry). If you need spacers to clear shocks and tires, run them, but if you are seeking all-out performance, they’re not an elegant solution.
     
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    Its fine. I had .75” and then .5” more spacer in the rear when I was stock width front, never noticed any handling issues. Put LT up front so I’m wider up front now, but still can’t tell any difference. I also know a handful of other people with wider rears just to clear relocated shocks.
     
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    Well maybe my response was leaned towards “optimal” handling and the best performance off road. Which having the rear wider than the front will not provide since it will worsen under steer. But I guess not everyone will notice if only .5-1” wider or so.

    And the same would go with my comment about body roll. But just think about the old ATC 3 wheelers that got banned because their handling characteristics caused too many people to flip them and get injured or die. But this is a very extreme example I suppose.

    Either way my opinion would still be to run the front a little wider than the rear if possible or at least keep them even
     
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    I should clarify that I do agree that front wider than rear equals better handling. I just meant that in this scenario and where we're talking an inch or two max overall, it won't make any appreciable difference for the vast majority of people.
     
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    And I to agree wider is better than stock, but saying that spacers in the rear only is worse than stock is unproven, and I've found no evidence it's even remotely true.

    Adding spacers in the rear makes the truck more stable in my experience, and that agrees with logic.
    Its not like you're running wider tires which adds more traction to the rear.
     
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